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pl8er
04-28-2009, 12:38 AM
Ahhh invention how fucking sweet it is.

G.E.’s Breakthrough Can Put 100 DVDs on a Disc
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By STEVE LOHR
Published: April 26, 2009
General Electric says it has achieved a breakthrough in digital storage technology that will allow standard-size discs to hold the equivalent of 100 DVDs.

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Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times
Brian Lawrence leads G.E.’s holographic storage program.
The storage advance, which G.E. is announcing on Monday, is just a laboratory success at this stage. The new technology must be made to work in products that can be mass-produced at affordable prices.

But optical storage experts and industry analysts who were told of the development said it held the promise of being a big step forward in digital storage with a wide range of potential uses in commercial, scientific and consumer markets.

“This could be the next generation of low-cost storage,” said Richard Doherty, an analyst at Envisioneering, a technology research firm.

The promising work by the G.E. researchers is in the field of holographic storage. Holography is an optical process that stores not only three-dimensional images like the ones placed on many credit cards for security purposes, but the 1’s and 0’s of digital data as well.

The data is encoded in light patterns that are stored in light-sensitive material. The holograms act like microscopic mirrors that refract light patterns when a laser shines on them, and so each hologram’s recorded data can then be retrieved and deciphered.

Holographic storage has the potential to pack data far more densely than conventional optical technology, used in DVDs and the newer, high-capacity Blu-ray discs, in which information is stored as a pattern of marks across the surface of a disc. The potential of holographic technology has long been known. The first research papers were published in the early 1960s.

Many advances have been made over the years in the materials science, optics and applied physics needed to make holographic storage a practical, cost-effective technology. And this year, InPhase Technologies, a spinoff of Bell Labs of Alcatel-Lucent, plans to introduce a holographic storage system, using $18,000 machines and expensive discs, for specialized markets like video production and storing medical images.

To date, holographic storage has not been on a path to mainstream use. The G.E. development, however, could be that pioneering step, according to analysts and experts. The G.E. researchers have used a different approach than past efforts. It relies on smaller, less complex holograms — a technique called microholographic storage.

A crucial challenge for the team, which has been working on this project since 2003, has been to find the materials and techniques so that smaller holograms reflect enough light for their data patterns to be detected and retrieved.

The recent breakthrough by the team, working at the G.E. lab in Niskayuna, N.Y., north of Albany, was a 200-fold increase in the reflective power of their holograms, putting them at the bottom range of light reflections readable by current Blu-ray machines.

“We’re in the ballpark,” said Brian Lawrence, the scientist who leads G.E.’s holographic storage program. “We’ve crossed the threshold so we’re readable.”

In G.E.’s approach, the holograms are scattered across a disc in a way that is similar to the formats used in today’s CDs, conventional DVDs and Blu-ray discs. So a player that could read microholographic storage discs could also read CD, DVD and Blu-ray discs. But holographic discs, with the technology G.E. has attained, could hold 500 gigabytes of data. Blu-ray is available in 25-gigabyte and 50-gigabyte discs, and a standard DVD holds 5 gigabytes.

“If this can really be done, then G.E.’s work promises to be a huge advantage in commercializing holographic storage technology,” said Bert Hesselink, a professor at Stanford and an expert in the field.

The G.E. team plans to present its research data and lab results at an optical data storage conference in Orlando next month.

Yet, analysts say, the feasibility of G.E.’s technology remains unproved and the economics uncertain. “It’s always well to remember that the most important technical specification in any storage device, however impressive the science behind it, is price,” said James N. Porter, an independent analyst of the storage market.

When Blu-ray was introduced in late 2006, a 25-gigabyte disc cost nearly $1 a gigabyte, though it is about half that now. G.E. expects that when they are introduced, perhaps in 2011 or 2012, holographic discs using its technology will be less than 10 cents a gigabyte — and fall in the future.

“The price of storage per gigabyte is going to drop precipitously,” Mr. Lawrence said.

G.E. will first focus on selling the technology to commercial markets like movie studios, television networks, medical researchers and hospitals for holding data-intensive images like Hollywood films and brain scans. But selling to the broader corporate and consumer market is the larger goal.

To do that, G.E. will have to work with partners to license its holographic storage technology and expertise, and the company is already talking with major electronics and optical storage producers, said Bill Kernick, who leads G.E.’s technology sales unit. The holographic research was originally related to G.E.’s plastics business, which it sold two years ago to the Saudi Basic Industries Corporation for $11.6 billion.

Volpone
04-28-2009, 12:40 AM
I don't want discs anymore. Too late.

pl8er
04-28-2009, 12:41 AM
:(

Well give me all your platters then....get away from the evil disks :P

tapout
04-28-2009, 12:42 AM
I don't want discs anymore. Too late.

Agreed. Digital storage for me.

Toasted1
04-28-2009, 12:56 AM
I think discs will still be around a while due to the fact we are so used to using some type of portable and disposable media. I think we will probably always have some type of media that is easy to record to and give someone a copy of without having to leave your flash drive or equivalent.

I think bluray is going to be the standard for a while as 25GB or whatever it holds is a fairly good standard for file sizes these days so my guess would be this would be an awesome backup media solution and then may or may not start moving into peoples homes.

IDSkot
04-28-2009, 01:00 AM
Agreed. Digital storage for me.

Word. My friend told me that her car's HU can read DVDs and I said, "Why? Just get an MP3 player, or a big USB drive. You can change the data with a whim, and it's a lot less cluttered / disorganized than a CD case."

hoss
04-28-2009, 07:34 AM
I don't want discs anymore. Too late.
This
I think discs will still be around a while due to the fact we are so used to using some type of portable and disposable media. I think we will probably always have some type of media that is easy to record to and give someone a copy of without having to leave your flash drive or equivalent.

I think bluray is going to be the standard for a while as 25GB or whatever it holds is a fairly good standard for file sizes these days so my guess would be this would be an awesome backup media solution and then may or may not start moving into peoples homes.

I dont think they will be around too much longer. Flash media will take its place, and portable devices with large hard drives will replace the need for any portable or disposable media.

It is already transitioning this way, look at commercials for DVD's, most of them come with digital copies now.

ngsm13
04-28-2009, 07:57 AM
I don't want discs anymore. Too late.

This.

nG

dman4486
04-28-2009, 09:15 AM
I think discs will still be around a while due to the fact we are so used to using some type of portable and disposable media. I think we will probably always have some type of media that is easy to record to and give someone a copy of without having to leave your flash drive or equivalent.

I think bluray is going to be the standard for a while as 25GB or whatever it holds is a fairly good standard for file sizes these days so my guess would be this would be an awesome backup media solution and then may or may not start moving into peoples homes.

I think flash drives will be the new cd.....soon we will be buying them in 25 packs, putting music on them and labeling the shit out of em.:banghead:

hoss
04-28-2009, 10:00 AM
I think flash drives will be the new cd.....soon we will be buying them in 25 packs, putting music on them and labeling the shit out of em.:banghead:

Nah, we will just be downloading music to large flash based drives, and probably sharing music over portable wireless devices.

The MS Zune almost had this, if they could make something that could actually compete with the iPod, they could corner the market. Well, assuming Apple doesnt start it first...

ngsm13
04-28-2009, 11:09 AM
Yup, flash based if where it's at.

This will take off before the new discs... probably...

http://www.sdcard.org/developers/tech/sdxc

;)

nG