Play music from my PC downstairs?

[Toasted1]

So I have a 2.1 computer setup upstairs and I want to be able to get sound downstairs.

Any way to make it happen?

I was just blasting it but old last nextdoor started bitching.

[atoz350]

So I have a 2.1 computer setup upstairs and I want to be able to get sound downstairs.

Any way to make it happen?

I was just blasting it but old last nextdoor started bitching.


What do you have downstairs to play it on?

[Toasted1]

What do you have downstairs to play it on?

Nothing, I have a PS3 but the fucking thing will not play music while playing a game.

[gymfreak101]

logitech sqeezebox or simlilar items

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Squeezebox-Wi-Fi-Internet-Radio/dp/B000VZL9C2

[IamDeMan]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Omnifi-DMS1-home-digital-media-streamer_W0QQitemZ120413214874QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c092fd89a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and a stereo upstairs.

[Toasted1]

logitech sqeezebox or simlilar items

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Squeezebox-Wi-Fi-Internet-Radio/dp/B000VZL9C2

Thanks but too expensive, I will just put a mini boombox that plays MP3s down there if it is the only other option.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Omnifi-DMS1-home-digital-media-streamer_W0QQitemZ120413214874QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c092fd89a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and a stereo upstairs.

You think I could run this through some kind of upgraded sound card?

[bigtoyota479]

You wouldn't need anything more than onboard sound to run that. As a matter of fact, I would suspect that it doesn't even use any sound hardware on your PC, but rather it has it's own DSP that pipes the music to your receiver.

[bluecar]

SOny has a wireless thing that may work. It was for sale at Vanns.Lemme see if I can find it.

[IamDeMan]

You wouldn't need anything more than onboard sound to run that. As a matter of fact, I would suspect that it doesn't even use any sound hardware on your PC, but rather it has it's own DSP that pipes the music to your receiver.

Exactly. It just accesses a shared folder via wifi and kicks it to a receiver of your choice. It is an obsolete and discontinued item, so it can be found for cheap, but still does the trick.

[Toasted1]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Omnifi-DMS1-home-digital-media-streamer_W0QQitemZ120413214874QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item1c092fd89a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

and a stereo upstairs.

This seems to be the best answer for me right now. I still need to get a receiver and some speakers but I can do something small used for under a couple hundred bucks.

The other option was the same type system in a small boombox type thing which would give me pretty piss poor sound.

[bigtoyota479]

Craigslist man, Craigslist. Picked up our Home Theater for about 100 bucks. Two towers, two satellites, and two receivers. Not the best stuff, but the sound that comes out is pretty dang good. If you're a big audiophile, and prefer big named stuff, this may not work for you.

[boxdgm]

got an old xbox laying around? you can mod it easily to stream video and music across a windows shared network folders (smb shares). I have a htpc in the living room with all my music and movies and can watch in on any of the xboxs in my house.

http://i452.photobucket.com/albums/qq244/Boxdgm/img1239775824413.jpg

you just need a opy of the xbox game splinter cell (original or greatest hits) and a memory card with the game save exploit on it

[IamDeMan]

This seems to be the best answer for me right now. I still need to get a receiver and some speakers but I can do something small used for under a couple hundred bucks.

The other option was the same type system in a small boombox type thing which would give me pretty piss poor sound.

Whatever solution you choose, I suggest not getting one tied in to it's own sounds sytem(like that boom box you mentioned) At least with something like this or the Xbox solution, or countless others, you can upgrade the receiver/speakers, etc later on down the road.

[pl8er]

The media box I just gave tapout :P

[pl8er]

Honestly though, the squeezebox (as mentioned) is the best. I love a few and LOVE them.

[MOT]

toasted, can you not find a cheap computer to put downstairs to stream the music through? i get free computers on craigslist all the time. Got 4 of em last week. just find one and use it to stream.

[pl8er]

toasted, can you not find a cheap computer to put downstairs to stream the music through? i get free computers on craigslist all the time. Got 4 of em last week. just find one and use it to stream.

This is very true but then you have another box, you need a screen, keyboard mouse just too many wires. A simple small solution is best.

[bigtoyota479]

Nah, you don't need any of that stuff. I have several keyboardless, mouseless, monitorless nodes setup in my house that I control over my network. They are nothing more than towers with a network connection that I can remote control from either of my two PC's that have monitors.

You can also get a card for a PCI slot that has an IR blaster remote to control it, and display the screen on your TV. There's some cool tech out there right now for this stuff, I tell you.

[Spider Monkey]

DAMN SON HE TOLD YOU

[pl8er]

Nah, you don't need any of that stuff. I have several keyboardless, mouseless, monitorless nodes setup in my house that I control over my network. They are nothing more than towers with a network connection that I can remote control from either of my two PC's that have monitors.

You can also get a card for a PCI slot that has an IR blaster remote to control it, and display the screen on your TV. There's some cool tech out there right now for this stuff, I tell you.

I get what you are saying. But my point still stands, a whole computer to play music seems overkill and thats pretty damn big statement coming from me. Using nodes for such low overall resource needs just seems wasteful. Also, we come back to exactly what I was saying earlier. Your going to use remote desktop from a computer just to turn on a computer downstairs and listen to music? What happens when you want to change songs, or playlists etc? Just too much travel.

If you have a stereo downstairs (i can't remember if you said) you could just get an adapter from an ipod to the rca's of the stereo.

[Toasted1]

Yeah I just need to find a CHEAP receiver and a 2.1 set on CL or something. Really hoping to come out <250 for everything.

[bigtoyota479]

My machines run Folding@home 24/7 and also act as fileservers. They do much more than pipe music, but then again, I am a PC geek.

[pl8er]

My machines run Folding@home 24/7 and also act as fileservers. They do much more than pipe music, but then again, I am a PC geek.

Just throwing this, but wouldn't it be more efficient and also allow for a more stable file server to run the folding on all the machines minus the file server? That way you don't run the system at such a high temperature and run the drives for no reason. Or are you running a RAID array to protect the drives?

[pl8er]

Yeah I just need to find a CHEAP receiver and a 2.1 set on CL or something. Really hoping to come out <250 for everything.

I have an older receiver from Sony, well shit actually I may have given it away, I'll check. If you want it (and it is still here) you are more than welcome to it. It's integrated.

[bigtoyota479]

No RAID, single drives in all machines. They have been going 100% load for 24/7/365 for 5 years now. I know my shit, lol.

[pl8er]

No RAID, single drives in all machines. They have been going 100% load for 24/7/365 for 5 years now. I know my shit, lol.

Sure sounds that way :loco:

You're running a "file server" on a single drive setup that also serves as a folding@home system? What type of redundancy do you have built in? By this I mean, how do you protect your data in the case of a hard drive failure?

[bigtoyota479]

It's spread throughout my network. The highly volatile stuff I keep on my main machine on a spare drive. There is no redundancy, and I've never really needed any. How do you think I keep my pron hidden from the Ms.?

[bigtoyota479]

I have 5 machines here, with drives ranging from 80-1tb. I keep my prons and other non important shit on my nodes, and my RL pics and important shit on my main machine.

[pl8er]

I have 5 machines here, with drives ranging from 80-1tb. I keep my prons and other non important shit on my nodes, and my RL pics and important shit on my main machine.

Yeah, get a second drive or take one of the nodes offline and put that drive in your primary.

I have 11 machines here and all servers are RAID and the primary machines are all weekly backed up using acronis enterprise which keeps it on a RAID system (so I have a mirrored file server holding images for all other pc's). Scary leaving important data on one system on a single drive.

And to answer your porn question/remark, make the files hidden ;)

[IamDeMan]

I get what you are saying. But my point still stands, a whole computer to play music seems overkill and thats pretty damn big statement coming from me. Using nodes for such low overall resource needs just seems wasteful. Also, we come back to exactly what I was saying earlier. Your going to use remote desktop from a computer just to turn on a computer downstairs and listen to music? What happens when you want to change songs, or playlists etc? Just too much travel.

If you have a stereo downstairs (i can't remember if you said) you could just get an adapter from an ipod to the rca's of the stereo.

I agree a more elgamt solution is a smallo appliance dedicated for this job. I am a big geek too, but for this a whole PC is an unecessary item.

[IamDeMan]

Sure sounds that way :loco:

You're running a "file server" on a single drive setup that also serves as a folding@home system? What type of redundancy do you have built in? By this I mean, how do you protect your data in the case of a hard drive failure?

RAID5 fo lyfe!

My files don't exist without it.

[IamDeMan]

I have 5 machines here, with drives ranging from 80-1tb. I keep my prons and other non important shit on my nodes, and my RL pics and important shit on my main machine.

Raid5 on a dedicated file server is more efficient and geek factor approved.

[Toasted1]

I have an older receiver from Sony, well shit actually I may have given it away, I'll check. If you want it (and it is still here) you are more than welcome to it. It's integrated.

I'll take it, I don't have $250 to spend now to be honest and was looking through $25-50 receivers on CL I just need something that can power two speakers and has an input for the media streaming box.

I actually forgot I have a set of bookshelf speakers in the basement from years ago so it is looking more and more like this will happen soon instead of some months down the road.

[pl8er]

RAID5 fo lyfe!

My files don't exist without it.

Raid5 on a dedicated file server is more efficient and geek factor approved.

Yep yep yep, but at least a RAID 1 to have at least a single instance of protection. Or hell, download Acronis to image each computer and transfer a copy of the image to each computer on the network. WAAAAY more space would be taken, but at least you are covered with no additional cost.

[pl8er]

I'll take it, I don't have $250 to spend now to be honest and was looking through $25-50 receivers on CL I just need something that can power two speakers and has an input for the media streaming box.

I actually forgot I have a set of bookshelf speakers in the basement from years ago so it is looking more and more like this will happen soon instead of some months down the road.

I actually did check and I gave it to him, but I'll see if he plans on using it. I know that he will wait for me to set it up, if he is going to use it, I obviously can't take it back, but if he is passed the point of caring about it, I'll send it your way.

Oh snap! It just hit me that he has my old netgear m101 (think that is what it is) media player. I know he isn't going to use that! You could install that and connect to a receiver and BAAAM BAAAM thank you ma'am you have music.

[bigtoyota479]

FYI, Raid 1 is not protection. Any errors, virus, or any other nastiness happens, and it will be replicated on the whole array. RAID 1 should never be used as a back up solution.

[pl8er]

FYI, Raid 1 is not protection. Any errors, virus, or any other nastiness happens, and it will be replicated on the whole array. RAID 1 should never be used as a back up solution.

Oh, your under the assumption that I get virus's errors and the likes.

Maybe I should tear down the servers and go with your single drive "spread it over the other computer" network?

Na, I'll stick with my shit :P

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/justin/Computers_001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/Servers001.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/Servers003.jpg

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/newcompsetup.jpg
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/newcompsetup2.jpg

I'll grab some pictures of the server rack sometime when I go in there.

[bigtoyota479]

Just cuz I'm a poor motherfucker that does what he can with what he has, don't mean you gotta be hatin'. ;)

[bigtoyota479]

Nice setup, BTW. After I get out of school and get a real job, I'll upgrade mine a bit.

[pl8er]

Just cuz I'm a poor motherfucker that does what he can with what he has, don't mean you gotta be hatin'. ;)

Na dude I'm not hating one bit. I just think you have your priorities jacked up in the realm of hardware. Running your systems at full tilt, while one is being used as a file server, is sorta like putting your hard drives over a tank of water being suspended by toilet paper. It sure as hell may work for awhile, but it is bound to fail.

I'm trying to watch out for you is all. If you want a copy of Acronis to setup a group policy for backups, I'll send it. Also, RAID 1 is a great solution if you do it correctly. The purpose of the mirror isn't to just keep data. For my acronis storage system I do this:

Each computer is controlled by the Acronis commander program which basically says things like "turn on" "image", etc. They then send the image file to the file server drives. The images are made once a week and stored there. If one of the computers break, you just replace the drive and the commander program will boot the pc and load the most up-to-date image (or the one that you choose to put on, in case of virus). Now if one of the drives on the RAID fails, the system warns you to replace the drive. So you just pull the drive, switch it with a new one (in my case send out for warranty repair and then add another) and let it rebuild. In the horrific FML event that the server drops BOTH drives, I actually have an image of the file server on an external hard drive.

[bigtoyota479]

I actually have a copy of Acronis, free of charge. I do use it on my main machine, which has 3x320 GB hd's in it. I use my machines for folding@home first, everything else second. With the exception of my main machine here, which also games like a mofo. I know about the mirrors, and how it's useful for a file server. As long as that machine isn't touched by the internet, or it's protected properly, it works just fine.

Once I get a real job, I'll get a setup similar to yours, but it will fold too. I've been hit hard with the things F@H is trying to find cures to, so it's a priority for me.

I'ma po boy, mang, and will be until I get out of school. My ass is stuck with what I have until then. For sure, though, once I get out and get some money again, I'll be asking around for some slick ideas. I have a feeling you'll be willing and able.

[pl8er]

I actually have a copy of Acronis, free of charge. I do use it on my main machine, which has 3x320 GB hd's in it. I use my machines for folding@home first, everything else second. With the exception of my main machine here, which also games like a mofo. I know about the mirrors, and how it's useful for a file server. As long as that machine isn't touched by the internet, or it's protected properly, it works just fine.

Once I get a real job, I'll get a setup similar to yours, but it will fold too. I've been hit hard with the things F@H is trying to find cures to, so it's a priority for me.

I'ma po boy, mang, and will be until I get out of school. My ass is stuck with what I have until then. For sure, though, once I get out and get some money again, I'll be asking around for some slick ideas. I have a feeling you'll be willing and able.

Total props on the F@H, I've known a few people with Alzheimer's, and man is it just horrible. Keep an eye out for Folding to start using clusters, as it becomes more refined (and you can virtualize) you should start being able to process single packets faster using a cluster array rather than just using your separate systems. If you look back up in the pics, the Ubuntu system had 3 nodes next to it with an older Dell running as the master. That was running SETI in a beowulf cluster.

Hell yeah, you start building or needing ideas, just ask.

[pl8er]

http://bccd.cs.uni.edu/

may be of interest

[bigtoyota479]

It would be really interesting to see if FAH could run on a system like that, considering it is SMP and can use up to 8 threads. I know peeps have run beowulf clusters before, but I don't think FAH has been successful on it. I'm sure it could be done, but tampering with the client is against the TOS, which I've had to remind other users of before.

The real sweet spot with FAH now, is with GPU's. They can do so much more work than the SMP CPU clients, due to GPU's being incredibly fast. They make CPU's look like 486DX's nowadays. I know nVidia and ATI both are working on software to turn your GPU into a CPU for everyday tasks. Should be really interesting in the coming months.

[Pop Da Hatch]

the computer nerds ITT need to tone ir down a notch.


































continue on fellas......

[pl8er]

It would be really interesting to see if FAH could run on a system like that, considering it is SMP and can use up to 8 threads. I know peeps have run beowulf clusters before, but I don't think FAH has been successful on it. I'm sure it could be done, but tampering with the client is against the TOS, which I've had to remind other users of before.

The real sweet spot with FAH now, is with GPU's. They can do so much more work than the SMP CPU clients, due to GPU's being incredibly fast. They make CPU's look like 486DX's nowadays. I know nVidia and ATI both are working on software to turn your GPU into a CPU for everyday tasks. Should be really interesting in the coming months.

Na, F@H is not capable yet. Honestly as multicore continues, what would be the point of developing it? EDIT: just answered my own, clustered array of multicores *muahahaha* I just was looking at a new mainboard to replace my primary system. It is a workstation board that accepts 2 quad core chips. In theory, I could run 8 cores, hyperthreaded (if I went with Xeon). That bootable disk would add speed to your current setup though. Minimal hardware requirement.

[pl8er]

It would be really interesting to see if FAH could run on a system like that, considering it is SMP and can use up to 8 threads. I know peeps have run beowulf clusters before, but I don't think FAH has been successful on it. I'm sure it could be done, but tampering with the client is against the TOS, which I've had to remind other users of before.

The real sweet spot with FAH now, is with GPU's. They can do so much more work than the SMP CPU clients, due to GPU's being incredibly fast. They make CPU's look like 486DX's nowadays. I know nVidia and ATI both are working on software to turn your GPU into a CPU for everyday tasks. Should be really interesting in the coming months.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadroplex_2200_s4_us.html

Just saying ;)

[pl8er]

Well looky who got a new green square from me ;)

[bigtoyota479]

WEEEEEE!!!!!

AMD is set to release 6 core procs soon, and both are set to release octo-core procs in the very near future. Also, Intel has resurrected hyperthreading, and with quite a bit of success in the new i7 line. IMO, buying a dual proc board now to get 8 cores is kind of a waste, unless you have loads of cash to spare and just want to increase your geek peen a bit. Money would be better spent on a i7 920 system, and the use of hyperthreading.

As far as boot speed goes, check out the new SSD's. While the price per gigabyte is relatively high, their read speed is pretty much unparalleled right now. Write speed still suffers on the lower end models, but in a RAID config, they spank any spindle drive built to date.

[pl8er]

WEEEEEE!!!!!

AMD is set to release 6 core procs soon, and both are set to release octo-core procs in the very near future. Also, Intel has resurrected hyperthreading, and with quite a bit of success in the new i7 line. IMO, buying a dual proc board now to get 8 cores is kind of a waste, unless you have loads of cash to spare and just want to increase your geek peen a bit. Money would be better spent on a i7 920 system, and the use of hyperthreading.

As far as boot speed goes, check out the new SSD's. While the price per gigabyte is relatively high, their read speed is pretty much unparalleled right now. Write speed still suffers on the lower end models, but in a RAID config, they spank any spindle drive built to date.

Do NOT want. Google SSD failure rate. Raptors do the trick for me right now. After these, I'll go SaS

[bigtoyota479]

The reason there are so many failures is that people do not know how to set them up and use them properly. If you are interested, I can put you in touch with someone that really knows their shit.

[pl8er]

I'd be interested in hearing what they have to say. I can't image how a different setup would change the drives reliability, but they are new, so I'm all ears (eyes)

[pl8er]

yes

[bigtoyota479]

I'll see if I can get you his email addy, and you can ask him some questions. He used to work for Intel, doing all kinds of cool shit. Tested a lot of products too.

[pl8er]

I'll see if I can get you his email addy, and you can ask him some questions. He used to work for Intel, doing all kinds of cool shit. Tested a lot of products too.

My company sells targets directly intel :fyi: ;)

[pl8er]

But yeah, hook me up with the info.

[pl8er]

Dude if you wanted attention you should have just asked.

[bigtoyota479]

Did you know that welders are like whore's? All they ever bitch about is wanting more heat, rod, and money.

[pl8er]

Did you know that welders are like whore's? All they ever bitch about is wanting more heat, rod, and money.

Yep, we have those at our work.

[bigtoyota479]

Whore's or welders?

[IamDeMan]

FYI, Raid 1 is not protection. Any errors, virus, or any other nastiness happens, and it will be replicated on the whole array. RAID 1 should never be used as a back up solution.

The OS is not on the RAID, so this is less of an issue.

[pl8er]

The OS is not on the RAID, so this is less of an issue.

Aye this as well.

Most of my "non-server" pc's that have any type of use as a "crunching" machine have a raptor primary and RAID 1 "storage" setup. The primary drive is just imaged.