ITT: We talk about wired/wireless routers

[bluecar]

I decided to be serious about this media server though the PS thing.

So, step 1 is getting a router. I am thinking wireless but I am afraid of being hacked. So, what brand/model is the best for security. I am not that worried about speed as the wireless part will be for my laptop. I just post and watch the occassional movie on hulu. The PS3 will be wired under the house. I won't be streaming online. If I need to download, I can always hook my laptop up to the router via wired.

Cliffs:
1. Need a router
2. Thinking wireless
3. Uses: foruming/vids/websites
4. Odds are will cut off the internet in November unless comcast extends my deal.


Question:

Wired / Wirelss
Make & Model

The "good" looking ones on newegg cost $200 so that is about what I'd spend.

[bigtoyota479]

Are you looking to do HD quality vids, or just youtube stuff? If you are looking to do any kind of serious media streaming at all, I would highly recommend running wires.

[Spider Monkey]

I decided to be serious about this media server though the PS thing.

So, step 1 is getting a router. I am thinking wireless but I am afraid of being hacked. So, what brand/model is the best for security. I am not that worried about speed as the wireless part will be for my laptop. I just post and watch the occassional movie on hulu. The PS3 will be wired under the house. I won't be streaming online. If I need to download, I can always hook my laptop up to the router via wired.

Cliffs:
1. Need a router
2. Thinking wireless
3. Uses: foruming/vids/websites
4. Odds are will cut off the internet in November unless comcast extends my deal.


Question:

Wired / Wirelss
Make & Model

The "good" looking ones on newegg cost $200 so that is about what I'd spend.


$80 bucks - Nelnet WIRELESS router (RangeMax™ Duo Wireless-N Router WNDR3300) + Wii = Your ultimate sex for everything. Sell your other consoles now. YOu can still play the same games BTW.

If you are scared about security, give it a good password. Dur. That is all that matters once you step up and get an effective wireless router.

Look! I just saved your ass $120 bucks!

[Toasted1]

Go to Best Buy and pick up the cheapest Linksys, D-Link, Linksys or Netgear wireless router you can find and bring it home. When you get home post here what router you have any we should be able to find you a link to instructions on setting up security and wireless on your router.

I just don't see a need on spending $200 on a router, I have been using the same $40 routers for two years. I only upgraded about 5 years ago to take the benefit of the slightly faster speeds.

You should be able to get out for there for $50 bucks or less.

Also your PS3 does not need a wired cable, mine plays wireless fine. If it is convenient a wired connection is always preferred but my TV is two stories up from my router and I have never had a problem.

[Spider Monkey]

Oh and according to DeMan, this shit I said above will be all you need to have a full home entertainment center.

[Spider Monkey]

Go to Best Buy and pick up the cheapest Linksys, D-Link, Linksys or Netgear wireless router you can find and bring it home. When you get home post here what router you have any we should be able to find you a link to instructions on setting up security and wireless on your router.

I just don't see a need on spending $200 on a router, I have been using the same $40 routers for two years. I only upgraded about 5 years ago to take the benefit of the slightly faster speeds.

You should be able to get out for there for $50 bucks or less.

Also your PS3 does not need a wired cable, mine plays wireless fine. If it is convenient a wired connection is always preferred but my TV is two stories up from my router and I have never had a problem.


My advice is so much better.

But I stole it from the master. LOL

[Toasted1]

$80 bucks - Nelnet WIRELESS router (RangeMax™ Duo Wireless-N Router WNDR3300) + Wii = Your ultimate sex for everything. Sell your other consoles now. YOu can still play the same games BTW.

If you are scared about security, give it a good password. Dur. That is all that matters once you step up and get an effective wireless router.

Look! I just saved your ass $120 bucks!

I think someone put it in his head that the $200 router will be 'better' somehow I already tried telling him this.

[Toasted1]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669915&st=WNDR3300&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1197074537600

[Spider Monkey]

I think someone put it in his head that the $200 router will be 'better' somehow I already tried telling him this.

Who ever that someone is, they should be shot, or come here for a proper railing. ;)

[Toasted1]

Probably CPG :laugh:

[Spider Monkey]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8669915&st=WNDR3300&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1197074537600

Flip.

This wireless router is going for 80 bucks at my local Fry's. I bought it 2 month's ago. It is business class.



You could go cheaper, but if you are trippin then by all means, Waste your money.


Hell you would be safe with a router for half the price. I have a two story house so I had to get one with range.

[bluecar]

Are you looking to do HD quality vids, or just youtube stuff? If you are looking to do any kind of serious media streaming at all, I would highly recommend running wires.

I plan on running wires to my PS3. I figure go ahead and run the wires. I think all TV will be over internet one day.

$80 bucks - Nelnet WIRELESS router (RangeMax™ Duo Wireless-N Router WNDR3300) + Wii = Your ultimate sex for everything. Sell your other consoles now. YOu can still play the same games BTW.

If you are scared about security, give it a good password. Dur. That is all that matters once you step up and get an effective wireless router.

Look! I just saved your ass $120 bucks!

I may get a wii, just to play with yall. I will check out that router.


Go to Best Buy and pick up the cheapest Linksys, D-Link, Linksys or Netgear wireless router you can find and bring it home. When you get home post here what router you have any we should be able to find you a link to instructions on setting up security and wireless on your router.

I just don't see a need on spending $200 on a router, I have been using the same $40 routers for two years. I only upgraded about 5 years ago to take the benefit of the slightly faster speeds.

You should be able to get out for there for $50 bucks or less.

Also your PS3 does not need a wired cable, mine plays wireless fine. If it is convenient a wired connection is always preferred but my TV is two stories up from my router and I have never had a problem.

Hmm. I just figure it would be better. I have the wire now...that is what I use to get the internet. I'd hate to be in the middle of a date and lose connection on wirelss.


Oh and according to DeMan, this shit I said above will be all you need to have a full home entertainment center.

Oh. I need speakas but I haven't seen anything that really makes me want to buy it.

My advice is so much better.

But I stole it from the master. LOL

I tried to IM him but then he went away.

I think someone put it in his head that the $200 router will be 'better' somehow I already tried telling him this.

No. I was searching under newegg and saw those ones for businesses seem to do exactly what I am trying to do. The other ones don't seem too, but I trust you that it will.

[bluecar]

Probably CPG :laugh:

Nah. I did ask her to ask her dad though to help me set it up if I need helps.

Flip.

This wireless router is going for 80 bucks at my local Fry's. I bought it 2 month's ago. It is business class.

You could go cheaper, but if you are trippin then by all means, Waste your money.

Hell you would be safe with a router for half the price. I have a two story house so I had to get one with range.

I have no issue with this one. I have heard of Cisco Systems. I have never heard of the other brands and assumed them to be junk.

[Spider Monkey]

Probably CPG :laugh:
More like the KGB. lol
I plan on running wires to my PS3. I figure go ahead and run the wires. I think all TV will be over internet one day.


A stupid waste of money. Buying wires is retarded.



I may get a wii, just to play with yall. I will check out that router.

Or do it because you can still play the same games on your other shit, and save money?

Just a thought.


Oh. I need speakas but I haven't seen anything that really makes me want to buy it.

Your TV does not have speakers? I am confused.



I tried to IM him but then he went away.

That was not him brah. He just has a shitty up. He was not ignoring you.

[bigtoyota479]

Wired > Wireless. :fyi:

[bluecar]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122273

$50 for the same thing?


I already have the wires. I will not be buying moar wires. I carry around a 100' ethernet cable around my house.

[Spider Monkey]

Nah. I did ask her to ask her dad though to help me set it up if I need helps.


Help is ITF. You shouldn't need any.

[Spider Monkey]

Wired > Wireless. :fyi:
For speed yes, for his needs, no.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122273

$50 for the same thing?


I already have the wires. I will not be buying moar wires. I carry around a 100' ethernet cable around my house.

Look at your wireless router, who makes it?

[bigtoyota479]

Securing your network is easy. Select WPA2, enter a decently long password, and you're done.

For streaming HD, wires are still a must. For everything else, there's WiFi.

[Spider Monkey]

Securing your network is easy. Select WPA2, enter a decently long password, and you're done.

For streaming HD, wires are still a must. For everything else, there's WiFi.

Wires are so 1998.

[Toasted1]

For streaming HD, wires are still a must. For everything else, there's WiFi.

Flip does not have the hardware to DL and store HD. I stream DVD's all day long and never had as much as a hickup and never had a lost connection on a game.

[bluecar]

For speed yes, for his needs, no.


Look at your wireless router, who makes it?

I don't have a wireless router. I have a modem and 100' cable.

Securing your network is easy. Select WPA2, enter a decently long password, and you're done.

For streaming HD, wires are still a must. For everything else, there's WiFi.

I see.

Ripping and streaming blurays is the ultimate goal. I can have no idea if I will ever make it. I just want the infrastructure in place.

[bluecar]

Flip does not have the hardware to DL and store HD. I stream DVD's all day long and never had as much as a hickup and never had a lost connection on a game.

can you get 5.1 when you stream?

[bigtoyota479]

Ya, if you want Blu-Ray, wire it. If you do regular DVD's, WiFi it. It's that simple. Better yet, most wireless routers some with 4 ports for wired. WiFi what you want, wire what you need to. DIR-655 is some good shit.

[Spider Monkey]

I don't have a wireless router. I have a modem and 100' cable.



I see.

Ripping and streaming blurays is the ultimate goal. I can have no idea if I will ever make it. I just want the infrastructure in place.


Up there ^^ You said you did I thought. Get what I said or something similar to what Toasty linked to, and you won't need to run Cat-5/6 all over your house.

[Spider Monkey]

can you get 5.1 when you stream?
Sound is part of the packets. FYI
Ya, if you want Blu-Ray, wire it. If you do regular DVD's, WiFi it. It's that simple. Better yet, most wireless routers some with 4 ports for wired. WiFi what you want, wire what you need to. DIR-655 is some good shit.
Hey brah, he is in a house with a foundation. You're point is about DL time. He has time.

[bluecar]

Ya, if you want Blu-Ray, wire it. If you do regular DVD's, WiFi it. It's that simple. Better yet, most wireless routers some with 4 ports for wired. WiFi what you want, wire what you need to. DIR-655 is some good shit.

This.

Up there ^^ You said you did I thought. Get what I said or something similar to what Toasty linked to, and you won't need to run Cat-5/6 all over your house.

I can have the wires ran in the time it takes you to drive to work.

[bluecar]

Sound is part of the packets. FYI

Hey brah, he is in a house with a foundation. You're point is about DL time. He has time.

What?


Yes. I have too much time, actually. I wish I could save time and use it at a later date.

[bigtoyota479]

Sound is part of the packets. FYI

Hey brah, he is in a house with a foundation. You're point is about DL time. He has time.

No, it's not about DL time. It's about ripping blu-rays on your PC and streaming them to your TV. WiFi won't do that reliably, yet. Even N-class stuff is sketchy for Hi Def still. For everything else, WiFi is kewl. Just because you're too lazy to run wires, doesn't mean the rest of us are too. Besides, I ran Cat5E through my whole house before I put the skirting on.

Running wires really isn't that hard. Honest. Just because you have a foundation, doesn't mean it can't be done either. Then again, I am just some skinny little fucker that can fit into spaces cats would envy.

[bluecar]

No, it's not about DL time. It's about ripping blu-rays on your PC and streaming them to your TV. WiFi won't do that reliably, yet. Even N-class stuff is sketchy for Hi Def still. For everything else, WiFi is kewl. Just because you're too lazy to run wires, doesn't mean the rest of us are too. Besides, I ran Cat5E through my whole house before I put the skirting on.

Running wires really isn't that hard. Honest. Just because you have a foundation, doesn't mean it can't be done either. Then again, I am just some skinny little fucker that can fit into spaces cats would envy.

I am going to run the wires. No doubt.

I think my question has been answered. I shall purchase this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122273

tomorrow and that will be that. I will have the wires ran for best possible connection. I only have 1 story and it's about a 30' crawl.

[Spider Monkey]

I can have the wires ran in the time it takes you to drive to work.
You're lying now. Holes have to be drilled unless you do it ghetto. I cannot help you with ghetto.

If you want that then by all means listen to everyone else. Forget my suggestion about getting a business router that will solve all of your future problems, allow you to post on the patio, allow you to stream movies and music from anywhere in the world from your house, and be a straight up baller.

Forget it all.

[bluecar]

You're lying now. Holes have to be drilled unless you do it ghetto. I cannot help you with ghetto.

If you want that then by all means listen to everyone else. Forget my suggestion about getting a business router that will solve all of your future problems, allow you to post on the patio, allow you to stream movies and music from anywhere in the world from your house, and be a straight up baller.

Forget it all.

The holes in the floor are already there from previous owner. There are several small holes in the floor. WHich sucks. I would have went through the effort to put in a plate, but whatever.

Since the one you mentioned has both wire and wireless capabilities, what is the harm in using both?

[bluecar]

big -- what kind of hardware/software infrastructure would one need to rip/stream BR?

[Spider Monkey]

Just because you're too lazy to run wires, doesn't mean the rest of us are too.



I'm gonna pull out the SHHH card and tell you how much I luff you. Agree.

[Spider Monkey]

The holes in the floor are already there from previous owner. There are several small holes in the floor. WHich sucks. I would have went through the effort to put in a plate, but whatever.

Since the one you mentioned has both wire and wireless capabilities, what is the harm in using both?

A waste of time? The fact that I know you? Your call. My AE - BigT will continue this convo with you.

[bluecar]

A waste of time? The fact that I know you? Your call. My AE - BigT will continue this convo with you.

That's fine. Thanks for your help. I will probably select the refurb version of the model you suggested.

[bigtoyota479]

What do you have now? You just need a small media PC and a vid card with HDMI. Some kind of wired router will work. WiFi is cool for games and lappy's and stuff.

Make a small media PC with a 1 TB HD, HDMI vid card, mediocre proc and 2 gigs of ram. I'm assuming you have an office PC you can just add a Blue-ray drive to and rip movies. Spam them over the network to your Media PC in your Entertainment center, and enjoy. You can even make Media PC's that have their own IR remote, so you don't have to do a damn thing.

[Toasted1]

That's fine. Thanks for your help. I will probably select the refurb version of the model you suggested.

Seems like a smart move.

For streaming bluray it is more about space I think than anything. A bluray can be something like 30 gigs and I would imagine you don't want to have to watch and delete them every time do you?

If I were going to stream blurays I think a more efficient way would be getting a bluray burner on your PC and ripping them from netflix or something. I can't imagine waiting 2 weeks for a single movie to download.

[bigtoyota479]

A waste of time? The fact that I know you? Your call. My AE - BigT will continue this convo with you.

You don't have to shut up. Speak, and maybe we will learn something. Whatchoo got that will stream Blu-Ray over WiFi without stuttering?

[Toasted1]

What do you have now? You just need a small media PC and a vid card with HDMI. Some kind of wired router will work. WiFi is cool for games and lappy's and stuff.

Make a small media PC with a 1 TB HD, HDMI vid card, mediocre proc and 2 gigs of ram. I'm assuming you have an office PC you can just add a Blue-ray drive to and rip movies. Spam them over the network to your Media PC in your Entertainment center, and enjoy. You can even make Media PC's that have their own IR remote, so you don't have to do a damn thing.

Do you know if a PS3 will stream bluray media formats?

[bluecar]

Seems like a smart move.

For streaming bluray it is more about space I think than anything. A bluray can be something like 30 gigs and I would imagine you don't want to have to watch and delete them every time do you?

If I were going to stream blurays I think a more efficient way would be getting a bluray burner on your PC and ripping them from netflix or something. I can't imagine waiting 2 weeks for a single movie to download.

Yes, I was going to rip and actual disc, I don't download. Since they don't make laptop versions of blueray ripper, I'd have to get another computer to make this work. However, I wonder if the ripper comes with the software that would allow one to watch it...or is that seperate?

[bluecar]

Do you know if a PS3 will stream bluray media formats?

Indeed. If that answer is No. And the question I asked SM is No, then there's no reason not to wifi.

[Spider Monkey]

Indeed. If that answer is No. And the question I asked SM is No, then there's no reason not to wifi.

I don't know shit about the PS3. :fyi: I just know that the Wii will do what you want. I have seen it and the prophet is DeMan.

[bigtoyota479]

I know nuffin about using consoles. I use PC's. Really need to talk to DeMan about this stuff too.

[bluecar]

I don't know shit about the PS3. :fyi: I just know that the Wii will do what you want. I have seen it and the prophet is DeMan.

So it doesn't slow down the Wii to do them both at the same time?

[Toasted1]

So it doesn't slow down the Wii to do them both at the same time?

What do you mean?

[bluecar]

What do you mean?

Well, if you have two things using the wireless, it is slower than one thing using wireless and one thing using wired.

Does that make sense?

[Spider Monkey]

Well, if you have two things using the wireless, it is slower than one thing using wireless and one thing using wired.

Does that make sense?

Yes and then no.

I loads and then plays.

[Spider Monkey]

Toasty, where did that bike thread go?

[bluecar]

Toasty, where did that bike thread go?

Nutrition.

[Spider Monkey]

I founded. Thanks. Continue with BigT and your house renovation.

[IamDeMan]

Oh and according to DeMan, this shit I said above will be all you need to have a full home entertainment center.

LOL, depends on what you expect. His PS3 can do actual streaming and not rely on orb. His PS3 should do HD movies as well. Orb and a Wii won't. In fact a Wii couldn't even do HD if it had a blu ray drive in it. It only display 480P. However it is functional enough.

[IamDeMan]

So it doesn't slow down the Wii to do them both at the same time?

Why would it?

A router balances and maintains traffic to maximize bandwidth to all that is connected to it. A good router will not have any noticeable degradation with 2 or more devices on wireless. Well at least within the intranet. Now the internet is shared and bandwidth regulated by the ISP, so that can slow down, but the same slow down will occur with one on wired and one on wireless, since internet bandwidth isn't controlled by your router.

[Spider Monkey]

LOL, depends on what you expect. His PS3 can do actual streaming and not rely on orb. His PS3 should do HD movies as well. Orb and a Wii won't. In fact a Wii couldn't even do HD if it had a blu ray drive in it. It only display 480P. However it is functional enough.

Silence. This thread is dead to me.

[IamDeMan]

Wires are so 1998.

Funny, in 98 they didn't have gigabit lans and todays wireless doesn't even come close to that BW and the ultimate stability. However the convenience for the average user easily trumps these 2 pros.

[bigtoyota479]

If you talk to dead threads, can you see dead people too?

[Spider Monkey]

Funny, in 98 they didn't have gigabit lans and todays wireless doesn't even come close to that BW and the ultimate stability. However the convenience for the average user easily trumps these 2 pros.

Flip is an average user. Shut up.

[IamDeMan]

Flip is an average user. Shut up.

I would totally agree with this. I don't know the BW necessities of streaming HD, but don't see a reason why a solid wireless connection couldn't stream HD. I could be wrong on that though. BigT takes too much faith in the old skoolers and the elite who think wired is the only answer. Many of those windbags never even use the infrastructure they build at home to its potential. They build them as E-penis pumps :p I wouldn't argue against wired still being faster and more stable, but for most people who live outside a geeks fantasy world, wireless is the better option.

[Spider Monkey]

I would totally agree with this. I don't know the BW necessities of streaming HD, but don't see a reason why a solid wireless connection couldn't stream HD. I could be wrong on that though. BigT takes too much faith in the old skoolers and the elite who think wired is the only answer. Many of those windbags never even use the infrastructure they build at home to its potential. They build them as E-penis pumps :p I wouldn't argue against wired still being faster and more stable, but for most people who live outside a geeks fantasy world, wireless is the better option.

Agreed. Now STFU. You in mad trouble for giving me your ADDY AFTER FedEx came by.

[IamDeMan]

HMM, after reading, it seems that PS3 has WirelessG and the 54mB of bandwidth can be trublesome if there isn't a clear line to it for streaming HD. It has no support for N. So wired on the PS3 may be the better option of he plans to store HD. However, I don't know if Flip realizes the amount of storage he needs for HD libraries.

[IamDeMan]

Agreed. Now STFU. You in mad trouble for giving me your ADDY AFTER FedEx came by.

Bitch I was fighting with the School today over my fall schedule. Bishes are making get permission to do 19 credits. Then the help they had in there for the first day didn't even have me do it correctly and I had to do it over again. It was the first day of open reg so the place was busy as fuck.

[Spider Monkey]

HMM, after reading, it seems that PS3 has WirelessG and the 54mB of bandwidth can be trublesome if there isn't a clear line to it for streaming HD. It has no support for N. So wired on the PS3 may be the better option of he plans to store HD. However, I don't know if Flip realizes the amount of storage he needs for HD libraries.

He is a hypothesizer not a do'er. We'er just chatting about something that will never actually happen.

[Spider Monkey]

Bitch I was fighting with the School today over my fall schedule. Bishes are making get permission to do 19 credits. Then the help they had in there for the first day didn't even have me do it correctly and I had to do it over again. It was the first day of open reg so the place was busy as fuck.

Still no excuse to turn your fucking phone off.

[bigtoyota479]

A lot of what I've read about wireless states that it can be troublesome for streaming HD content. Wireless G is not up to the task, not enough bandwidth, especially if the IC is in use somewhere else. Wireless N fares better, but it still depends on the house, location of router, media box, and server. Someone hops on the net in the middle of your stream, and you are suddenly sputtering. That doesn't happen with gigabit, or 100 MBPS LAN. He said he had ethernet cable and was prepared to run it/already had it run. Why take a chance no expensive hardware when you have what is known to work?

Also, the further you get from the router, the more your speed drops. Walls affect this also. Get too far away or have a wall or two in between, and your Wireless N becomes Wireless G. :shrug:

Now, had there been no ethernet cable infrastructure in place, yeah, wireless is probably the way to go. Still, I mentioned hardwiring the media box only, and using wireless for everything else. I played the best of both worlds.

[IamDeMan]

He is a hypothesizer not a do'er. We'er just chatting about something that will never actually happen.True

Still no excuse to turn your fucking phone off.It was dead yo, and I don't have it on when at school anyway. It's beyond disrespectful.

A lot of what I've read about wireless states that it can be troublesome for streaming HD content. Wireless G is not up to the task, not enough bandwidth, especially if the IC is in use somewhere else. Wireless N fares better, but it still depends on the house, location of router, media box, and server. Someone hops on the net in the middle of your stream, and you are suddenly sputtering. That doesn't happen with gigabit, or 100 MBPS LAN. He said he had ethernet cable and was prepared to run it/already had it run. Why take a chance no expensive hardware when you have what is known to work?

Also, the further you get from the router, the more your speed drops. Walls affect this also. Get too far away or have a wall or two in between, and your Wireless N becomes Wireless G. :shrug:

Now, had there been no ethernet cable infrastructure in place, yeah, wireless is probably the way to go. Still, I mentioned hardwiring the media box only, and using wireless for everything else. I played the best of both worlds.

I stated this with less words already. This isn't the venue to get your geek hard on.

[bigtoyota479]

Hey, he asked, I delivered. If there is no place here to get my geek on, why the fuck do you have a computer section? I keep it realz everywhere else.

[bluecar]

I will probably hardwire because I have the wire. I definitiely wouldn't buy it. If I can get DVDs to stream, I will be happy. I'd like to stream HD, but who knows if/when that will happen.

[ngsm13]

Yup, $50 linksys will do you fine and dandy!

nG

[UCP]

No.

[IamDeMan]

I will probably hardwire because I have the wire. I definitiely wouldn't buy it. If I can get DVDs to stream, I will be happy. I'd like to stream HD, but who knows if/when that will happen.

Regular DVD will stream over either. I know you "have" the wire, but you also "have" the WiFi, so I still fail to see your decision making point. I would to WiFi until I needed the BW and stability of wired. Meh.

[IamDeMan]

Hey, he asked, I delivered. If there is no place here to get my geek on, why the fuck do you have a computer section? I keep it realz everywhere else.
You may "keep it real" but I am serious business in these parts.

[pl8er]

I'm not reading :P So if this was said, just replace all my text with X2

Get a wireless N router. It will also have wired. I have a D-link that is bad flipping ass.

As far as security. Right router you can shut off the ability to be pinged, filter out the ports you are not using (better than closing them as a closed port can be seen) put a strong password as well as have your system only work with specified MAC addresses.

[bluecar]

router is now in the mail.