For those that do their own oil changes

[bluecar]

Me and a friend have a bit of a debate.

WHen you change your oil, do you fill the new oil filter up with oil before putting it back or not?

I always do beause an article in car craft magazine said that your engine suffers a severe drop in oil pressure for the second or so it takes to fill up with filter with oil. My friend said this is inconsequential and just add another step, and if you have a jap car where the filter goes on sideways, you spill oil everywhere.

Thoughts?

[Spider Monkey]

Never heard of putting oil in the filter bro. :wat:

[fiercetimbo17]

Yea me either, even if it did take a second or two whats supposed downside for it having to do it?

[evildave101]

ive allways put oil in the filter, i sometimes start the engine for a second also
if it goes on sideways, dont put as much oil in it

[bluecar]

Yea me either, even if it did take a second or two whats supposed downside for it having to do it?

If you don't the engine doesn't have adequate oil pressure while the filter is filling up.

[bluecar]

ive allways put oil in the filter, i sometimes start the engine for a second also
if it goes on sideways, dont put as much oil in it

This is a must...then let it sit for a few minutes to cool and recheck fluid levels and/or leaks.

[tapout]

Always fill filter and lube the gasket on top.

[Captain Ahab]

Reminds me. I get to pay someone $35 to change mine this upcoming week.

I don't know shit about cars.

[Spider Monkey]

Reminds me. I get to pay someone $35 to change mine this upcoming week.

I don't know shit about cars.

Same here bro. And I don't care to learn.

[tapout]

Reminds me. I get to pay someone $35 to change mine this upcoming week.

I don't know shit about cars.

the fuck? that include oil and filter? either way thats fucked.

$15 for oil and filter and do it yourself. If you cant, these lube places are hurting for business. Most are 24.99 and offer a free car wash. My local Precision Tune does them for 14.99 every other week.

[bluecar]

If I trusted someone else, I'd pay $15.

[Toasted1]

I get the coupon for $15.99 oil change, condo board flips if we try doing our own :wat:

I have never filled the filter with oil but it makes sense.

[bluecar]

I get the coupon for $15.99 oil change, condo board flips if we try doing our own :wat:

I have never filled the filter with oil but it makes sense.

reason number 323787328328 I am glad ca.com talked me out of the condo.

[JimJ]

I spread oil on the gasket, but I've never filled the filter. I'm not burning rubber seconds after I do an oil change, so any drop in pressure hasn't damaged anything yet.

[MR.Crunk]

Me and a friend have a bit of a debate.

WHen you change your oil, do you fill the new oil filter up with oil before putting it back or not?

I always do beause an article in car craft magazine said that your engine suffers a severe drop in oil pressure for the second or so it takes to fill up with filter with oil. My friend said this is inconsequential and just add another step, and if you have a jap car where the filter goes on sideways, you spill oil everywhere.

Thoughts?

my moms got a honda and the filter is vertical FYI

[bluecar]

my moms got a honda and the filter is vertical FYI

my ex's altima was horizontal iirc and i guessed it was a jap thing

[fiercetimbo17]

If you don't the engine doesn't have adequate oil pressure while the filter is filling up.

I dont keep asking because i dont believe you i just dont understand, what is bad about that?

[bluecar]

I dont keep asking because i dont believe you i just dont understand, what is bad about that?

What is bad about inadequate oil pressure? Is that your question?

[fiercetimbo17]

yea in what way does that harm your car

[bluecar]

yea in what way does that harm your car

oil doesn't circulate. Instead of oil moving to lubricate the engine, the oil is filling up a filter.

[Captain Ahab]

the fuck? that include oil and filter? either way thats fucked.

$15 for oil and filter and do it yourself. If you cant, these lube places are hurting for business. Most are 24.99 and offer a free car wash. My local Precision Tune does them for 14.99 every other week.

Yeah it includes oil and filter. It takes them about 10 minutes and you sit in your car.

My dad used to change the oil but doesn't anymore due to back problems and such. He takes it to the mechanic we use and he charges $20 is all.

One place here does give a free car wash. I need to see how much they are.

[bluecar]

See, that is the issue. I cannot think it is good for cars with iron blocks and aluminum heads to have cool oil poured into them. Probably why I see so many cars with head gasket issues.

[Spider Monkey]

So you heat your oil up every morning before starting the car?

[bluecar]

So you heat your oil up every morning before starting the car?

No, but the block, heads, and oil are the same temp. The heads are usually treated so they cool slowly and not warp.

Head a pan up to 200* and then throw a cup of water on it....see if it warps the pan.

[evildave101]

yea in what way does that harm your car

lack of oil pressure causes more friction=more wear=shorter engine life

but the lack of oil pressure for the fifteen seconds it takes for the oil pump to fill the filter after an oil change is really not going to hurt anything, but filling the filter before putting it on limits the time that the engine is not getting oil.
when you start the engine, all the oil is in the pan anyway and it takes a second for the oil pump to get it circulating-no oil in filter=a few more seconds to get it circulating

i fill the filter first, mainly because thats how i learned to do it

[Spider Monkey]

I wash my shit out with a water hose after I drain the oil. I don't have these problems.

[evildave101]

I wash my shit out with a water hose after I drain the oil. I don't have these problems.

i do not recommend this

[tapout]

i do not recommend this

you trolling? Thats the proper way.

[bluecar]

you trolling? Thats the proper way.

..........

[tapout]

Ive been searching around some ASE sites and it seems filling it up is not the norm. Just lubin the gasket.

I learned that way and being around deisel engines that require 4 quarts in the filter alone, you can see why we do it that way.

[Spider Monkey]

i do not recommend this

:wat:

I like to clean it. There is gunk that gets caught in spots if you just drain it. Spraying it with water cleans it out nice. Like a baby's ass.

[bluecar]

Ive been searching around some ASE sites and it seems filling it up is not the norm. Just lubin the gasket.

I learned that way and being around deisel engines that require 4 quarts in the filter alone, you can see why we do it that way.

Like I said, I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with not filling up the filter...just filling it is "better". It may be because the article was for higher performance cars where things like that may matter.

I still don't think it's a good idea to drain the oil of a car that's still hot.

[bluecar]

:wat:

I like to clean it. There is gunk that gets caught in spots if you just drain it. Spraying it with water cleans it out nice. Like a baby's ass.

What spots? Where?

[evildave101]

you trolling? Thats the proper way.

http://froggypic.com/image/07/18f9eb9576191cae2733daa882f71fbe.gif (http://froggypic.com/#18f9eb9576191cae2733daa882f71fbe.gif)

[Spider Monkey]

What spots? Where?

The gunk. Above the pistons and shit.

[bluecar]

The gunk. Above the pistons and shit.

Above the pistons is where there is an explosion. There should be no oil there at all. If the oil is getting into the combustion chamber, then you have other issues.

[evildave101]

:wat:

I like to clean it. There is gunk that gets caught in spots if you just drain it. Spraying it with water cleans it out nice. Like a baby's ass.

filling it with a 50/50 mixture of gasoline and oven cleaner works very well also

[Spider Monkey]

Above the pistons is where there is an explosion. There should be no oil there at all. If the oil is getting into the combustion chamber, then you have other issues.

Horse shit. That is why Chevron puts that Tecron shit in the gas. It keeps the top of the radiator clear from clogs and shit. If the radiator is coolio, then an oil change is a breeze with water.

[tapout]

filling it with a 50/50 mixture of gasoline and oven cleaner works very well also

now youre catching on.

[bluecar]

I put transmission fluid in my oil a couple days before the oil change...

[MR.Crunk]

I did my own oil changes when i had my 95 silverado but now my cavalier is such a pain in the ass i just pay to have it done. and the entire time they are doing it im staring at them through the shop window :laugh: and they dont have a "pit" so i can see everything :sneaky: plus its only $20

[Spider Monkey]

You can crawl under real vehicles without jack. :fyi:

[bluecar]

You can crawl under real vehicles without jack. :fyi:

Like my truck?

[Spider Monkey]

Like my truck?

You could prolly get under that. I can get under mine on my knees and hands. Makes shit a lot easier with the water hose.

[MR.Crunk]

You can crawl under real vehicles without jack. :fyi:

i drive it once a week for 3 hours, it pays for itself since my truck gets 14mpg....going downhill with the motor off :rofl:

[maddskillzz]

most of your newer cars and trucks have the oil filter mounter sideways so filling the filter is not possible.....the oil pump starts pumping as soon as the motor turns over and it will have filled the filter before the engine starts...im cautious so i usually bump the switch a couple of times turning the motor over a few times before actually letting it start so some oil will get pumped back into the top of the motor..

[pl8er]

Looks like its been answered, but I don't fill the filter. Just rub oil around the entire ring for 3 runs around.

[IamDeMan]

When I used to do them, I didn't fill the filter, just lubed the gasket and put it on. I doubt those few seconds will amount to much if anything.

[MR.Crunk]

I doubt those few seconds will amount to much if anything.
thats what she said:noes:

[Bender]

When I used to do them, I didn't fill the filter, just lubed the gasket and put it on. I doubt those few seconds will amount to much if anything.

my thoughts exactly...now if you dont lube the gasket you run the risk of it not sealing correctly and having an oil leak

[Spider Monkey]

I always lube when I seal a gasket.

[Sex Cells]

a second or two without oil is not going to harm your car. unless it heats up insanely fast or something.

[IDRIFT]

ur supposed to put oil on the gasket round the filter so it adhears ok...but no u dont have to put oil in the filter itself

[bluecar]

I think you guys cannot read.

Just curious who does / doesn't. I don't think it really matters...but just curious on the methods.

[Spider Monkey]

Oh.

I don't change my oil.

[bluecar]

Oh.

I don't change my oil.

That is not a function of income btw.

John Templeton makes more in in the time in takes more me to make this post than you will make in your lifetime and yet he changes his own oil.

[Spider Monkey]

That is not a function of income btw.

John Templeton makes more in in the time in takes more me to make this post than you will make in your lifetime and yet he changes his own oil.

Spend as much time as he does changing oil, editing that post, and I'll know how to respond.

[bluecar]

Spend as much time as he does changing oil, editing that post, and I'll know how to respond.

lol....dunno. He just said in his book he still changes his own oil.

[Spider Monkey]

He should put that on his grave.

[bluecar]

He was born very close to where I work...which is how I know of him. Very few from rural TN make it big.

[Spider Monkey]

Very few from everywhere make it big bro.

[bluecar]

While that is true, people here are taught that getting a job on the assembly line at Nissan is more credible than going to Princeton. So much so, a fellow nearly turned down that school to work on an assembly line due to peer pressure.

[Spider Monkey]

While that is true, people here are taught that getting a job on the assembly line at Nissan is more credible than going to Princeton. So much so, a fellow nearly turned down that school to work on an assembly line due to peer pressure.

Gotttta love the midwest.

[Bender]

He was born very close to where I work...which is how I know of him. Very few from rural TN make it big.

where exactly do you live? i am like 15 min east of knox

Gotttta love the midwest.

that would be the south east

[Spider Monkey]

where exactly do you live? i am like 15 min east of knox



that would be the south east

incorrect.

That would be the midwest.

[Bender]

incorrect.

That would be the midwest.

what do you consider the south east? anything south of miami? or is that too far north and east?

[Spider Monkey]

what do you consider the south east? anything south of miami? or is that too far north and east?

If you do not live in NY FL or CA you're in the midwest.

Sorry bro. I have proof.

[Bender]

If you do not live in NY FL or CA you're in the midwest.

Sorry bro. I have proof.

could i see it for future reference?

[bluecar]

If you do not live in NY FL or CA you're in the midwest.

Sorry bro. I have proof.

Apparently longitude is irrelevant...

on SM's map, HI and AK are in the midwest.

[Spider Monkey]

could i see it for future reference?
I just told you.

Learn some history.
Apparently longitude is irrelevant...

on SM's map, HI and AK are in the midwest.

That^^^^^

[Bender]

I just told you.

Learn some history.


That^^^^^

oh ok my bad

[Sex Cells]

That is not a function of income btw.

John Templeton makes more in in the time in takes more me to make this post than you will make in your lifetime and yet he changes his own oil.

Probably does his own landscaping and house keeping too, doesn't make him any less of a dumbass.

[bluecar]

asdf

[bluecar]

asdf

[Sex Cells]

Rhodes Scholar = dumbass.

I will keep that in mind.

Not everyone who is wealthy blows money.

Even Warren Buffet drives a used car.

Who gives a fuck? If you're so great at discerning this knowledge why aren't you a millionaire?

Warren buffet can drive a fucking tata nano and it wont matter because he gets driven around in a S550.

Keep worrying about equations to getting laid and the rest of us will wade out the humbling bullshit and live happy lives, okay?

[Sex Cells]

Actually, most of the wealthiest people in the world drive used cars. You don't get rich by buying shit that's worth 80% of it's value in a year.

No you stupid fuck, most the wealthiest people in the world get flown around in 50 million dollar jets. You don't know shit, which is why you live in a little house, with no women.

[bluecar]

Who gives a fuck? If you're so great at discerning this knowledge why aren't you a millionaire?

Warren buffet can drive a fucking tata nano and it wont matter because he gets driven around in a S550.

Keep worrying about equations to getting laid and the rest of us will wade out the humbling bullshit and live happy lives, okay?

lol u mad

[bluecar]

No you stupid fuck, most the wealthiest people in the world get flown around in 50 million dollar jets. You don't know shit, which is why you live in a little house, with no women.

Nope try again.

[Sex Cells]

asdf

[bluecar]

asdfi know the equation to getting laid!

[Spider Monkey]

Who gives a fuck? If you're so great at discerning this knowledge why aren't you a millionaire?

Warren buffet can drive a fucking tata nano and it wont matter because he gets driven around in a S550.

Keep worrying about equations to getting laid and the rest of us will wade out the humbling bullshit and live happy lives, okay?

You and I


We should brainstorm some time.

[bluecar]

i failed the promotion, so i will stfu. not to mention he no longer works for HD.

[bluecar]

i will use behr for my pathetic kitchen. acknowledging that behr is shit paint for shit diy users.

[bluecar]

asdf

[Spider Monkey]

lol u mad

Oh fuck. HE BROUGHT THE PAIN!

[Sex Cells]

i own you@322#$#

[Spider Monkey]

My boyz mad at each other? WTF is up with that?

[bluecar]

i own you@322#$#

I knows.

Too bad I don't look like Owen Wilson. I'd get plenty of pussy but be poor and drive a gas guzzler...then complain because I couldn't travel to wherever, whenever I wanted.

Cotjones has your back though. He believes transportation is a fundamental right.

[bluecar]

My boyz mad at each other? WTF is up with that?

I aren't mad brah.

He mad.

I am loling

So are my friends.

[Spider Monkey]

Cotjones has your back though. He believes transportation is a fundamental right.

:bowrofl:


OMFG


:bowrofl:

[Sex Cells]

I knows.

Too bad I don't look like Owen Wilson. I'd get plenty of pussy but be poor and drive a gas guzzler...then complain because I couldn't travel to wherever, whenever I wanted.

Cotjones has your back though. He believes transportation is a fundamental right.

Atleast you'd get pussy without equations failing you.

I aren't mad brah.

He mad.

I am loling

So are my friends.

You has no friends. You cant even get CPG to lay you.

[bluecar]

Atleast you'd get pussy without equations failing you.



You has no friends. You cant even get CPG to lay you.

Oh. Okay.

You win. I suck at life.


I am glad I have you here to talk to me...otherwise I'd be oh so alone.

[Spider Monkey]

the fuck on ?

[Sex Cells]

Oh. Okay.

You win. I suck at life.


I am glad I have you here to talk to me...otherwise I'd be oh so alone.

Look, its just jealousy of your finance skillz. I want you Flip, I WANT YOU

[Spider Monkey]

:noes:

[evildave101]

http://froggypic.com/image/07/a16c9f5a07889dabbf5df117090458a1.gif (http://froggypic.com/#a16c9f5a07889dabbf5df117090458a1.gif)

[Spider Monkey]

I can has butt sex?

[bluecar]

I can has butt sex?

Deerhunt confused ATM with salad tossing so you better inquire futher.

[Spider Monkey]

Deerhunt confused ATM with salad tossing so you better inquire futher.

:keke:

[bluecar]

So we have learned here that changing your own oil only matters if you are never going to be a millionaire.

If you change your own oil at 25, but are only ~1/10th the way there that just isn't quite good enough.

So, in the event I become a millionaire I shall come back to this thread and hope that I don't get banned for being yet another millionaire (or billionaire) that changes his own oil.

[Spider Monkey]

Now that is just crazy talk...

[bluecar]

Now that is just crazy talk...

If I could go back in time, I'd ask Templeton if he filled the oil filter with oil. Now that is a question worth asking.

[IamDeMan]

I aren't mad brah.

He mad.

I am loling

So is my cat.

Fixed

[IamDeMan]

Apparently longitude is irrelevant...

on SM's map, HI and AK are in the midwest.:rofl:

Probably does his own landscaping and house keeping too, doesn't make him any less of a dumbass.

Oh, so this is how it started. Eugy attacked the credibility of some egghead that Bluecar masturbates to. It makes sense now.

[Jamesypoo]

Apparently I should've stayed up later.

[bluecar]

:rofl:



Oh, so this is how it started. Eugy attacked the credibility of some egghead that Bluecar masturbates to. It makes sense now.

It started a post or 2 before this, be edited posts.

Apparently I should've stayed up later.

Indeed.

[Porch Monkey]

If you do not live in NY FL or CA you're in the midwest.

Sorry bro. I have proof.What about me? I'm 20min from the FLA boarder?

[Sex Cells]

:rofl:



Oh, so this is how it started. Eugy attacked the credibility of some egghead that Bluecar masturbates to. It makes sense now.

Basically he spews his normal stupid shit and interpretation of reality, and then when someone says "what the fuck are you talking about!?" all you get back is, 'lolumad', and 'oh, i was just trollin'.

No, dumbass, you're a dumbass.

Hoorah!

[bluecar]

Basically he spews his normal stupid shit and interpretation of reality, and then when someone says "what the fuck are you talking about!?" all you get back is, 'lolumad', and 'oh, i was just trollin'.

No, dumbass, you're a dumbass.

Hoorah!

You took something way out of context that didn't even involve you.

You were not a part of the conversation and we were kidding around and you come out from left field with a bunch serious nonsense.

[bluecar]

Furthermore, questioning my sex life (or lack thereof :)) is irrelevant ITT.

[IamDeMan]

Basically he spews his normal stupid shit and interpretation of reality, and then when someone says "what the fuck are you talking about!?" all you get back is, 'lolumad', and 'oh, i was just trollin'.

No, dumbass, you're a dumbass.

Hoorah!

Oh.

[pl8er]

No lie, at least half of you are on your periods and have sand coming from the vagina at the same time.

I expect a large group hug in the very near future.

[IamDeMan]

No lie, at least half of you are on your periods and have sand coming from the vagina at the same time.

I expect a large group hug in the very near future.

Don't ever confuse my seriousness with my period :fyi:

If I have to bust out a tampon, the whole world will know!

[IamDeMan]

And we can't do group hugs without HOSS.

[pl8er]

And we can't do group hugs without HOSS.

Where is our hossage anyways?

[tapout]

Apparently I should've stayed up later.

inorite.

[IamDeMan]

Where is our hossage anyways?

Passed out on a lake with his ice cream ball is my guess.

[pl8er]

Passed out on a lake with his ice cream ball is my guess.

We could all be so lucky.

[Spider Monkey]

What about me? I'm 20min from the FLA boarder?

You like, close bro.

[bluecar]

Passed out on a lake with his ice cream ball is my guess.

I am missing a thread or post.

[pl8er]

I am missing a thread or post.

I was asking where Hoss was so that the group hug could commence and all this hate could stop.

He is passed out which is why we are having so much of the hate.

[IamDeMan]

He is at the lake, but he is not passed out, which I find odd. He said poast will commence tonight. So we can have a group hug then.

[Spider Monkey]

Thank god.

[MrBones]

I know that larger engines require that you do that, when the oil filter looks like a can of Monster/Rock Star....but for most vehicles especially 4 bangers, there's probably 3/4ths of a quart still in the motor anyways, unless it was just rebuilt or something....

[evildave101]

http://froggypic.com/image/07/e3193ee55b63cdd043ad7cd1db45446b.gif (http://froggypic.com/#e3193ee55b63cdd043ad7cd1db45446b.gif)

[Proximity]

the fuck? that include oil and filter? either way thats fucked.

$15 for oil and filter and do it yourself. If you cant, these lube places are hurting for business. Most are 24.99 and offer a free car wash. My local Precision Tune does them for 14.99 every other week.

I pay about $35 for my 5q of mobile 1 synthetic and oil filter.

[Proximity]

I wash my shit out with a water hose after I drain the oil. I don't have these problems.

I have to change my oil later tonight, gonna give this a shot, thx.

[MrBones]

I have to change my oil later tonight, gonna give this a shot, thx.

don't forget to delete system32 folder later then reboot your computer

[tommyk90]

Never filled up the filter.

This thread reminded me that I need to change the oil in ole' rusty.

[Bender]

I pay about $35 for my 5q of mobile 1 synthetic and oil filter.

i dont really know how much i pay but i get the mobil 1 15,000 mile...not cheap but its good shit

[evildave101]

http://www.oil-tech.com/motoroil-comparison.htm

[darthvibrator]

http://www.oil-tech.com/motoroil-comparison.htm

nothing new here. i just cant convince myself to pay so much for amsoil. i just use the bullshit motorcraft oil and filters you can get at walmart. its a semi synth (who knows how much is actually synth) that recommends a 5k oil change interval. good enough for me for only like $18

[bluecar]

I use Mobile 1 5000 mile oil change. It's not synthetic, but does the 5000 mile thing.

[evildave101]

i use castrol, or napa oil which is valvoline

[bigtoyota479]

Napa oil is the shit. Cheap version of Valvoline, and WILL NOT leave sludge. Penzoil sucks ass, don't use it.

As far as the filter goes, rule of thumb is: If the filter is vertical, fill it. If it's anything but, don't worry about it. Got 300K on my Yota with a side shot filter that's horizontal, never filled it, and still going strong. That 1 second without oil pressure won't hurt them, or really any car for that matter. Those that get your oil changed somewhere, they don't pre fill the filters either, just pre oil the gasket. :fyi: