Has anyone ever....

[bigtoyota479]

had to replace a clutch in a 2001-2005 Civic and done it themselves? According to the book, I have to drop the subframe to get the tranny out the bottom. Not exactly an easy thing to do, but possible. I'm more curious to know if you can get the tranny out the top if you take the hood off. I have to do a timing belt/water pump as well, so I may just yank the whole engine. Anyone done this?

[hoss]

Dont know if this is helpful to you at all, but a friend of mine did a few motor swaps in a few honda's and acuras, and I believe they always dropped the motor/transaxle out of the bottom.

You really gotta pull everything just to do a clutch swap?

[bigtoyota479]

In the older Civics, as in pre-2000, yeah, the tranny just pops out the bottom. I've done tons of those. In 2001 and newer, you have to remove the sub frame first, then the tranny drops out. Big PITA, because you may need an alignment when you're all done.

[bigtoyota479]

I was thinking it MAY be easier to pull the tranny UP and out, if I take the hood off. I was just curious if anyone had done it this way, or seen it done this way, and if it would save any time.

[hoss]

My instinct would say no, but dont know for sure...

[Toasted1]

vtec yo!

[hoss]

Would it help if you start double clutchin and stop granny shifting?

[bigtoyota479]

Not in my year of cars. They aren't tuners at all. Single cam VTEC is 125 HP. The 2.0 liter, only in the SI, is like 150. The best way to get HP in the 7th gen cars is to do a K20 swap out of a CRV or Accord. Then you have to do some customization with the belts and pully's, and it's a big PITA. Not to mention a decent K20 will set you back 4-5 large.

My car has no VTEC. If I wanted a fast Civic, I would have bought a pre-2000 car with a B18, or a K series in it. Hell, even a 2000 B16 equipped SI had 170 HP bone stock, from the factory.

See, in 2001, Honda went ULEV, and their HP dropped through the floor. OBDII hasn't helped them any either.

[bigtoyota479]

Would it help if you start double clutchin and stop granny shifting?

The clutch was damned near gone when I bought it with 80K on it. Now it's almost 110K, and the clutch is really showing it's age.

I put a clutch in my truck 125K ago. My last brake job on that was 80K ago, and everything is still holding up fine. If I had owned this car from day one, I wouldn't need a clutch for another 50-60K miles.

[_AnGeL_]

Not in my year of cars. They aren't tuners at all. Single cam VTEC is 125 HP. The 2.0 liter, only in the SI, is like 150. The best way to get HP in the 7th gen cars is to do a K20 swap out of a CRV or Accord. Then you have to do some customization with the belts and pully's, and it's a big PITA. Not to mention a decent K20 will set you back 4-5 large.

My car has no VTEC. If I wanted a fast Civic, I would have bought a pre-2000 car with a B18, or a K series in it. Hell, even a 2000 B16 equipped SI had 170 HP bone stock, from the factory.

See, in 2001, Honda went ULEV, and their HP dropped through the floor. OBDII hasn't helped them any either.

i thought the crv had a k24?

[bigtoyota479]

Fuck, yer right. The K20 is in the 01-05 SI. The 2.0L DOHC VTEC. The CRV's and Accords have the K24's.

[_AnGeL_]

i would love to get a 92-95 hatch and swap in a k20 :drool: or even a b18 lol

my friend has a 93 coupe with a b20/b16 hybrid, b20 block and b16 head. somabish is pretty fast.

[bigtoyota479]

Orly? How does he get around the higher compression issues with that head/block combo? Does he run high octane gas, or did he get a thinker head gasket?

[hoss]

Is the 2.0 just a stroked 1.6? as opposed to a bored version?

[bigtoyota479]

K20A

The 2.0L (1998 cc) K20 engines have 86 mm (3.39 in) bore and 86 mm (3.39 in) stroke. The 2.2L (2157 cc) version has 87.0 mm (3.43 in) bore & 90.7 mm (3.57 in) stroke.

K20Z3

This inline-4 cylinder internal combustion engine is found in the US market Honda Civic Si (2006+) & Canadian market Acura CSX Type-S and honda accor CL-9 euro R model. It has an aluminum block with an aluminum head, and a bore and stroke of 86 mm x 86 mm, resulting in a 2.0 Liter displacement.

B16A2

* VTEC

Found in:

*
o 1992-2000 Honda Civic EDM VTi (EG6/EG9 & EK4)
o 1992-1997 Honda Civic Del Sol EDM VTi (EG)
o 1996-1997 Honda Civic Del Sol USDM "VTEC"
o 1999-2000 Honda Civic USDM Si (EM1)
o 1999-2000 Honda Civic CAN SiR (EM1)
o Displacement: 1,595 cc (97.3 cu in)
+ Bore×Stroke: 81.0×77.4 mm (3.19×3.05 in)

That would indicate both bored AND stroked, therefor raising the compression of the B20 block with the B16 head due to smaller combustion chambers.

[bigtoyota479]

BTW, the reason the K20's are so kick ass is the fact that they are perfectly square. In other words, bore=stroke. Makes for some bitching power.

[hoss]

Is a K block the same as a B block? :confused:

[bigtoyota479]

Essentially yes, basically just a different generation. What really separates them is the cylinder heads. Honda basically used the same block for EVERYTHING, just changed the bore/stroke slightly, but the heads are what really make Honda's motors.

As far as being able to swap B and K series heads and blocks, I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think it's possible. Slightly different head bolt pattern, IIRC. I could be wrong though.

The most popular mods are putting VTEC heads on non vtec blocks, and putting K20 heads on K24 blocks. You can also do single cam D-series mods, but they aren't really worth it IMO.

[_AnGeL_]

idk, ill ask him. im sure he did whatever he needed to ensure that it doesnt fuck up lol
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[bigtoyota479]

I'm sure he did it right too. I'm just curious WHAT he did. There's a few right ways to do it.