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BabyHuey
08-07-2009, 02:31 AM
So as of late, ive decided to start goin to the gym and getting my health in order. Now im freshly 21 in April, and a rather large guy lol, im 6'6"/7" and weigh around 325-330. Im built similar to a lineman, just thick in general. Not really fat per say but im not skinny either lol. I jsut started goin to the gym about 3 to 4 times a week. Usually warm up with tennis or somethin (i could only imagine how goofy i must look playin tennis with my friend lol) then lift for a bit.

Im basically tryin to get an eating regiment goin. Right now i dont eat that much, but really i just dont prepare food to eat throughout the day so thats the reason i dont eat much, excuses i guess. I was wondering if someone could help me out with this or get me goin on the right steps. Right now my goals are to lose my excess weight and start by dropping bellow 300. I no i can do it jsut feel like i need a tight regiment.
I hope someone can chime in and help me out. Thanks guys:bowdown:

Toasted1
08-07-2009, 06:32 AM
People do not get to 325lbs just by not eating much bro. You are big enough where you could loose 2-3lbs a week without having to do much less than eat at a calorie deficet.

Google the Harris Benedict formula for your height/weight then subtract 1000/cal a day from it and you will probably be able to see your penis within a few months and start to see some big changes.

The most important part is sticking to it, most people know how to eat healthy or at least better than they are now just can't seem to break past the mental block you need in order to stick to it.

I would also throw some cardio in there, even starting with 20 minutes of walking @ like 3mph and adding 5 minutes a week to it should get you off to a good start without risking hurting yourself.

pl8er
08-07-2009, 06:50 AM
So as of late, ive decided to start goin to the gym and getting my health in order. Now im freshly 21 in April, and a rather large guy lol, im 6'6"/7" and weigh around 325-330. Im built similar to a lineman, just thick in general. Not really fat per say but im not skinny either lol. I jsut started goin to the gym about 3 to 4 times a week. Usually warm up with tennis or somethin (i could only imagine how goofy i must look playin tennis with my friend lol) then lift for a bit.

Im basically tryin to get an eating regiment goin. Right now i dont eat that much, but really i just dont prepare food to eat throughout the day so thats the reason i dont eat much, excuses i guess. I was wondering if someone could help me out with this or get me goin on the right steps. Right now my goals are to lose my excess weight and start by dropping bellow 300. I no i can do it jsut feel like i need a tight regiment.
I hope someone can chime in and help me out. Thanks guys:bowdown:

www.bodybuilding.com

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ThomasG
08-07-2009, 01:22 PM
www.bodybuilding.com

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You gotta be careful with bb.com. Tons of misinformation and brahs there. But with the search function you can find some good stuff.

With how big you are shoot for no less than 2lbs per week. Diet is the biggest factor here, working out is just the icing on the cake with weight loss. I put my weight loss clients on a circuit/interval training regimen. Google tabata training.

You need to get on a negative energy balance by at least 1000 calories per day. 1000 calories defect per day=2lbs lost per week.

pl8er
08-07-2009, 01:55 PM
You gotta be careful with bb.com. Tons of misinformation and brahs there. But with the search function you can find some good stuff.

With how big you are shoot for no less than 2lbs per week. Diet is the biggest factor here, working out is just the icing on the cake with weight loss. I put my weight loss clients on a circuit/interval training regimen. Google tabata training.

You need to get on a negative energy balance by at least 1000 calories per day. 1000 calories defect per day=2lbs lost per week.

was more of a joke that brand new member came in asking a very similar question that has already been asked here. I was being a jerk more than anything else.

pl8er
08-07-2009, 01:56 PM
Only because we are on the internet though. At this guys size, I'd NEVER mess with him irl. You're a big moddafucka

ThomasG
08-08-2009, 10:37 PM
was more of a joke that brand new member came in asking a very similar question that has already been asked here. I was being a jerk more than anything else.

O haha ok.

pl8er
08-09-2009, 02:30 AM
I did a mean set today though. Bench 315X1 stand up pull a plate from each side....225X5 pull a plate from each side..135....rep out ...first do quick pumps in the negative and after which you do full extensions.

Stand up and use a straight bar 50lb and did around 25 reps. Put that down went to shoulder shrug and 315 for 10.

I would have to take at least a 3 minutes break after each one.

pl8er
08-09-2009, 12:20 PM
So as of late, ive decided to start goin to the gym and getting my health in order. Now im freshly 21 in April, and a rather large guy lol, im 6'6"/7" and weigh around 325-330. Im built similar to a lineman, just thick in general. Not really fat per say but im not skinny either lol. I jsut started goin to the gym about 3 to 4 times a week. Usually warm up with tennis or somethin (i could only imagine how goofy i must look playin tennis with my friend lol) then lift for a bit.

Im basically tryin to get an eating regiment goin. Right now i dont eat that much, but really i just dont prepare food to eat throughout the day so thats the reason i dont eat much, excuses i guess. I was wondering if someone could help me out with this or get me goin on the right steps. Right now my goals are to lose my excess weight and start by dropping bellow 300. I no i can do it jsut feel like i need a tight regiment.
I hope someone can chime in and help me out. Thanks guys:bowdown:

PM me with what you really want to accomplish, I'll see if I can get you moving down the right path. Really ask yourself if you have the drive to get in shape. If you just think *snap your fingers BAM* and your in shape, just stay how you are. It takes work, you will be in pain and it takes time.

bluecar
08-09-2009, 12:44 PM
PM me with what you really want to accomplish, I'll see if I can get you moving down the right path. Really ask yourself if you have the drive to get in shape. If you just think *snap your fingers BAM* and your in shape, just stay how you are. It takes work, you will be in pain and it takes time.

This. It sucks all the way around. If you are getting plenty bishes, I am not sure it is worth it. However, when you look in the mirror and flex your growing muscles, there is a feeling of accomplishment that makes you proud of yourself and makes you going to the gym when others are going home to watch TV feel pretty damn good.

pl8er
08-09-2009, 12:59 PM
This. It sucks all the way around. If you are getting plenty bishes, I am not sure it is worth it. However, when you look in the mirror and flex your growing muscles, there is a feeling of accomplishment that makes you proud of yourself and makes you going to the gym when others are going home to watch TV feel pretty damn good.

Do yourself one up on the mirror thing. Take a picture of yourself and again in 4-6 weeks and repeat.

Just for you. You will be amazed.

BabyHuey
08-10-2009, 04:09 PM
I got the drive to get in shape. I dont know if you guys quite get how im built. Im not a fat ass. I just have a very dense body. Most people think i weigh like 250-275. Nobody ever guesses over 300...ever. That and the fact taht im 6'6 or so adds lots of weight.
But im jsut ready to get healthy and in shape. I already go to the gym like 3 to 4 times a week, i just dont feel like im going in the right direction. Ive seem some of the people in this thread give out great advice but i wasn't sure if that was advice per each person or universal stuff so i thought id ask.

BabyHuey
08-10-2009, 04:18 PM
You gotta be careful with bb.com. Tons of misinformation and brahs there. But with the search function you can find some good stuff.

With how big you are shoot for no less than 2lbs per week. Diet is the biggest factor here, working out is just the icing on the cake with weight loss. I put my weight loss clients on a circuit/interval training regimen. Google tabata training.

You need to get on a negative energy balance by at least 1000 calories per day. 1000 calories defect per day=2lbs lost per week.

Thanks ill have to look into this. Maybe im doing something wrong, but i can lose 2lbs quick. My weight usually fluctuates pretty easily depending on how much im sweating. Like today i left the gym weighing 1lb less, again id expect this to just be sweat and such but id be willing to bet when i go back tomorrow ill be around the same weight or less.

pl8er
08-10-2009, 04:44 PM
It is not universal. There are guidelines to go by, but each person will have a different plan tailored.

Explain what your current routine is and food intake is like.

bluecar
08-10-2009, 05:14 PM
Buyer Beware:

He will suggest foods that taste like crap, such as yogurt, nuts, seeds, etc. It sucks, but it works.

bluecar
08-10-2009, 05:15 PM
My motto is: Working out is work.

ThomasG
08-10-2009, 05:58 PM
Thanks ill have to look into this. Maybe im doing something wrong, but i can lose 2lbs quick. My weight usually fluctuates pretty easily depending on how much im sweating. Like today i left the gym weighing 1lb less, again id expect this to just be sweat and such but id be willing to bet when i go back tomorrow ill be around the same weight or less.

Weigh yourself the same time in the morning naked(no homo)

Toasted1
08-10-2009, 06:17 PM
Buyer Beware:

He will suggest foods that taste like crap, such as yogurt, nuts, seeds, etc. It sucks, but it works.

Do it for six months then try some fast food chances are it will taste like shit to you and make you feel like you have full blown AIDS.

I still eat a shit meal once a week but other than the time I spend getting it down my throat I usually feel like shit afterward..

It can however help if you hit a plateau for more than a few weeks it will sometimes kick it into gear. Some say doing this once a week helps prevent this but I honestly just do it because I like the taste of it.. got a fucking nom nomlicious pepperoni pizza this week.

bluecar
08-10-2009, 06:27 PM
I am getting used to the yogurt. Almost to the point where I want to make it a 10am and 230pm thing. Currently, don't eat anything at 230 because I don't care for nuts. I like fruit, but don't want too much sugar.

_AnGeL_
08-10-2009, 06:29 PM
you'll love my nuts :fyi: :laugh:

BabyHuey
08-10-2009, 07:53 PM
It is not universal. There are guidelines to go by, but each person will have a different plan tailored.

Explain what your current routine is and food intake is like.

Well i have class at 8am 4 times a week so i usually eat like a granola bar on teh way to class. Today i had another one at like 1030 but this isnt a usual thing. I usually get out by like 1130 so i then go to the gym at like 12. Then from there it depends on what i have planned for the day but i usually drink a protein shake when i get back from the gym, whether i gotta work or what. But usually i try to eat something throughout the day now b/c i havnt really been doin so consistently for awhile. Then dinner basically goes where i find whatever, the weak link i think of my food intake so far. I honestly down for whatever though, Im not a very picky eater.

pl8er
08-11-2009, 11:10 AM
Well i have class at 8am 4 times a week so i usually eat like a granola bar on teh way to class. Today i had another one at like 1030 but this isnt a usual thing. I usually get out by like 1130 so i then go to the gym at like 12. Then from there it depends on what i have planned for the day but i usually drink a protein shake when i get back from the gym, whether i gotta work or what. But usually i try to eat something throughout the day now b/c i havnt really been doin so consistently for awhile. Then dinner basically goes where i find whatever, the weak link i think of my food intake so far. I honestly down for whatever though, Im not a very picky eater.

Remember too, you are a big fella. Really it is important that you give your body fuel post workout. So make this a heavier protein shake or a meal.

Take small steps...increase your meals as my PM mentioned to you. Check your weight after a week or two and we can work on your routine at that point.

pl8er
08-11-2009, 11:31 AM
I'd be interested in Juniors take on this too. My personal opinion is that you starve your body and it stores whatever/whenever because it doesn't know the next time for a meal...you continue to give it food and there is little reason to store. You are depleting the supply just as you are giving it more. None to really store.

You obviously can't eat crap.

Captain Ahab
08-11-2009, 11:41 AM
I'd be interested in Juniors take on this too. My personal opinion is that you starve your body and it stores whatever/whenever because it doesn't know the next time for a meal...you continue to give it food and there is little reason to store. You are depleting the supply just as you are giving it more. None to really store.

You obviously can't eat crap.

His take is to EAT!

And it works.

bluecar
08-11-2009, 07:26 PM
I eat more than I ever have and don't gain any weight.

pl8er
08-11-2009, 07:55 PM
I'd be interested in Juniors take on this too. My personal opinion is that you starve your body and it stores whatever/whenever because it doesn't know the next time for a meal...you continue to give it food and there is little reason to store. You are depleting the supply just as you are giving it more. None to really store.

You obviously can't eat crap.

I realize that I wrote this very weird. I'm saying eat more often and you will lose weight or maintain.....don't skip meals.

BabyHuey
08-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Ya i got that i need to eat and dont have a problem with eating lol, I just need to know what i should eat and what times. Like what do u guys eat? and could i do the same thing or no?

bluecar
08-13-2009, 12:27 AM
Ya i got that i need to eat and dont have a problem with eating lol, I just need to know what i should eat and what times. Like what do u guys eat? and could i do the same thing or no?

5:20 get up and run a mile. Eat a peanut bar deal and drink some juice
8:20 sausage and biscuit or whatever I feel like eating for bfast (sometimes eggs, sometimes ham, etc)
10:00 1 cup of light yogurt
11:15 lunch (last night's leftovers [meat and 2 veggies])
2pm: 1 cup of light yogurt
5pm: Protein bar (if it's a MWF)
7pm: dinner. meat and 2 veggies

I try and stay away from cokes/beer during the week. My schedule falls apart on the weekend, but I am working on it.

pl8er
08-13-2009, 12:38 AM
I'm still kinda confused on what your goal is Huey?

Are you wanting to stay large but be more cut, increase mass but get a little less fat?

Get thin?

junior
08-13-2009, 12:57 PM
I'd be interested in Juniors take on this too. My personal opinion is that you starve your body and it stores whatever/whenever because it doesn't know the next time for a meal...you continue to give it food and there is little reason to store. You are depleting the supply just as you are giving it more. None to really store.

You obviously can't eat crap.

Hey man. I'm here. Been busy getting this gym back on it's feet. Putting in 60-80/week. It's a big job, but it's the work I love.

And yes you are right, as usual. if your body isn't getting a steady supply of nutritional food, it will store the food that you do take in as fat, so that is has a storage just is case it goes into a deeper starvation mode. I believe in feeding the body with a lot of food, spread out over the day. Myself I am 5' 4", 200lbs. and I eat 6000 calories on the days I don't train and 8000 calories on the days I do train, and I lose weight at that if I do cardio. I do minimal cardio right now as I am trying to gain another 10-15 lbs. before I start dieting for the show.

The biggest thing is making sure you are eating the proper ratio of carbs to protein so that your body can burn it properly. there are different ratios though for weight gain and weight loss. Then also depending on if the client is male or female, determines the amount of protein you should be taking in. For women, they need .8 grams of protein/body lb. in order to maintain the muscle they have. And if they want to gain muscle 1.0-1.2(sometimes 1.5 if they are very active) grams/body lb. For men, we need at least 1.0 grams/ body lb. to maintain, and 1.5-2.0 grams/ body lb. to gain.

His take is to EAT!

And it works.

Lol. Thanks man. Glad it is still working for ya. Put any thought in doing the NPC Nationals?(hint, hint, nudge, nudge. lol.)

BabyHuey,

Yes there is different approaches for different people with different goals. If you want I would be more than willing to help you out. Pl8er is a good guy and is very knowledgable, and I would love to add to the wisdom he has already given you. It is important first to know what your exact goals are. Is it weight loss? Is it strength? is it for a specific goal or purpose like a sport? How many times a week do you go to the gym? How long do you have to stay at the gym per day? Do you have any medical ailments that we should know about? Bad joints or injuries? Give me some background info and I can get you on a proper nutritional plan and a good workout routine.

pl8er
08-13-2009, 01:04 PM
Hey man. I'm here. Been busy getting this gym back on it's feet. Putting in 60-80/week. It's a big job, but it's the work I love.

And yes you are right, as usual. if your body isn't getting a steady supply of nutritional food, it will store the food that you do take in as fat, so that is has a storage just is case it goes into a deeper starvation mode. I believe in feeding the body with a lot of food, spread out over the day. Myself I am 5' 4", 200lbs. and I eat 6000 calories on the days I don't train and 8000 calories on the days I do train, and I lose weight at that if I do cardio. I do minimal cardio right now as I am trying to gain another 10-15 lbs. before I start dieting for the show.

The biggest thing is making sure you are eating the proper ratio of carbs to protein so that your body can burn it properly. there are different ratios though for weight gain and weight loss. Then also depending on if the client is male or female, determines the amount of protein you should be taking in. For women, they need .8 grams of protein/body lb. in order to maintain the muscle they have. And if they want to gain muscle 1.0-1.2(sometimes 1.5 if they are very active) grams/body lb. For men, we need at least 1.0 grams/ body lb. to maintain, and 1.5-2.0 grams/ body lb. to gain.



Lol. Thanks man. Glad it is still working for ya. Put any thought in doing the NPC Nationals?(hint, hint, nudge, nudge. lol.)

BabyHuey,

Yes there is different approaches for different people with different goals. If you want I would be more than willing to help you out. Pl8er is a good guy and is very knowledgable, and I would love to add to the wisdom he has already given you. It is important first to know what your exact goals are. Is it weight loss? Is it strength? is it for a specific goal or purpose like a sport? How many times a week do you go to the gym? How long do you have to stay at the gym per day? Do you have any medical ailments that we should know about? Bad joints or injuries? Give me some background info and I can get you on a proper nutritional plan and a good workout routine.

I appreciate the props, but this is a big boy...I'm out of my element and can offer generic information. Glad your stopped in. I try to fill in the intro because I know you have a ton going on. I have given him some food tips and timing, but I'm waiting for his reply so we can setup some sort of strategy for routines.

I always forget injuries, like we are all invisible or just work through it ;)

tapout
08-13-2009, 03:31 PM
working out, eating right, and getting plenty of rest is overrated.

:fyi:

Porch Monkey
08-13-2009, 04:50 PM
werd

lift heavy, jerkoff, and eat pork n' beans is all you should ever need

Captain Ahab
08-13-2009, 05:22 PM
I ate like shit, drank excessively, ran off no sleep and still put on 20lbs on my bench max a year and a half ago. lawl.

BabyHuey
08-14-2009, 02:52 AM
Hey man. I'm here. Been busy getting this gym back on it's feet. Putting in 60-80/week. It's a big job, but it's the work I love.

And yes you are right, as usual. if your body isn't getting a steady supply of nutritional food, it will store the food that you do take in as fat, so that is has a storage just is case it goes into a deeper starvation mode. I believe in feeding the body with a lot of food, spread out over the day. Myself I am 5' 4", 200lbs. and I eat 6000 calories on the days I don't train and 8000 calories on the days I do train, and I lose weight at that if I do cardio. I do minimal cardio right now as I am trying to gain another 10-15 lbs. before I start dieting for the show.

The biggest thing is making sure you are eating the proper ratio of carbs to protein so that your body can burn it properly. there are different ratios though for weight gain and weight loss. Then also depending on if the client is male or female, determines the amount of protein you should be taking in. For women, they need .8 grams of protein/body lb. in order to maintain the muscle they have. And if they want to gain muscle 1.0-1.2(sometimes 1.5 if they are very active) grams/body lb. For men, we need at least 1.0 grams/ body lb. to maintain, and 1.5-2.0 grams/ body lb. to gain.



Lol. Thanks man. Glad it is still working for ya. Put any thought in doing the NPC Nationals?(hint, hint, nudge, nudge. lol.)

BabyHuey,

Yes there is different approaches for different people with different goals. If you want I would be more than willing to help you out. Pl8er is a good guy and is very knowledgable, and I would love to add to the wisdom he has already given you. It is important first to know what your exact goals are. Is it weight loss? Is it strength? is it for a specific goal or purpose like a sport? How many times a week do you go to the gym? How long do you have to stay at the gym per day? Do you have any medical ailments that we should know about? Bad joints or injuries? Give me some background info and I can get you on a proper nutritional plan and a good workout routine.

I cant believe i forgot, but i do have an injury. In like November i hurt my right shoulder playin football. I have whats called a 'winging scapula', a verrrrry annoying problem. Its hard to describe so if u haven't heard of it, id recommend just googling it. In my case, it is a nerve problem for me so i have been going to physical therapy and such, but its a thing that can randomly get better overnight so i have to kinda just wait. It basically limits how high i can lift my right arm, so its a very limiting "disability" if that's what u wanna call it. I'm about to switch to a new physical therapist that my mom recommended me that she uses b/c the scapula thing isnt painful, its just annoying. Like i cant even shoot a basketball right anymore b/c i cant get my arm high enough. There are only certain exercises where it really affects me, but im still careful b/c i dotn want to screw it up further (im not really sure if i can screw it up more though, i guess thas a question for the pt).

My goals as of right now are to cut extra weight and add muscle at the same time preferably, but the muscle getting added isnt my primary goal. Id say its my secondary goal behind cutting weight and flab. Dont get me wrong, eventually i want to put on muscle, but i just dont know if its safe for me to do heavy lifting on my shoulder. I hope this is enough info, let me know what else you need. And again, i appreciate all ur guys' help :bowrofl::bowdown:

pl8er
08-14-2009, 10:02 AM
I cant believe i forgot, but i do have an injury. In like November i hurt my right shoulder playin football. I have whats called a 'winging scapula', a verrrrry annoying problem. Its hard to describe so if u haven't heard of it, id recommend just googling it. In my case, it is a nerve problem for me so i have been going to physical therapy and such, but its a thing that can randomly get better overnight so i have to kinda just wait. It basically limits how high i can lift my right arm, so its a very limiting "disability" if that's what u wanna call it. I'm about to switch to a new physical therapist that my mom recommended me that she uses b/c the scapula thing isnt painful, its just annoying. Like i cant even shoot a basketball right anymore b/c i cant get my arm high enough. There are only certain exercises where it really affects me, but im still careful b/c i dotn want to screw it up further (im not really sure if i can screw it up more though, i guess thas a question for the pt).

My goals as of right now are to cut extra weight and add muscle at the same time preferably, but the muscle getting added isnt my primary goal. Id say its my secondary goal behind cutting weight and flab. Dont get me wrong, eventually i want to put on muscle, but i just dont know if its safe for me to do heavy lifting on my shoulder. I hope this is enough info, let me know what else you need. And again, i appreciate all ur guys' help :bowrofl::bowdown:

This is exactly why Junior is the man, I never think to ask that. You need to check with your therapist about the range of motion and what you should be doing on it. Past experience shows me that trainers usually play on the safe side because slower recovery rather than risking another injury of course makes sense. You will know your limits or will quickly learn them. Keep your weight levels on the lower end when utilizing those muscles.

Weight lose isn't nearly as hard as what people would make you believe. You just have to be dedicated. Now you need to really think about this question. If you lost the weight you want to lose, would you be happy with your physical build? Because most builders will bulk (add weight using lean foods) to put on mass and then cut (reduce intake and increase your cardio and such to shred your body up and to cut it into a more chiseled look). Don't read reduce intake as limiting food, your daily intake will be the same in number of times, just what your eating and how much of it changes.

This can change from person to person, some people do not react the same.

If your really wanting weight loss and will be okay with your body after some size is gone, we can go down that road easily. If you think your going to be unhappy with your size post cutting, lets look at foods that will help you to maintain weight while building muscle, we can cut you up a bit later.

BabyHuey
08-15-2009, 02:15 AM
This is exactly why Junior is the man, I never think to ask that. You need to check with your therapist about the range of motion and what you should be doing on it. Past experience shows me that trainers usually play on the safe side because slower recovery rather than risking another injury of course makes sense. You will know your limits or will quickly learn them. Keep your weight levels on the lower end when utilizing those muscles.

Weight lose isn't nearly as hard as what people would make you believe. You just have to be dedicated. Now you need to really think about this question. If you lost the weight you want to lose, would you be happy with your physical build? Because most builders will bulk (add weight using lean foods) to put on mass and then cut (reduce intake and increase your cardio and such to shred your body up and to cut it into a more chiseled look). Don't read reduce intake as limiting food, your daily intake will be the same in number of times, just what your eating and how much of it changes.

This can change from person to person, some people do not react the same.

If your really wanting weight loss and will be okay with your body after some size is gone, we can go down that road easily. If you think your going to be unhappy with your size post cutting, lets look at foods that will help you to maintain weight while building muscle, we can cut you up a bit later.

I no that im gonna need to fill in a little bit once i lose the weight and i want that, but im not sure whether it would be something to do while i lose the weight or if it will be better to do once i lose the weight. The thing is with me is that most of the conventional stuff doesn't work for me. My bmi shows that im obese and i cant necessarily argue with that, but even at like 250 or lower with my height it still puts me at obese. But at like 250, id be small as shit. That would be like 80 pounds off of me as i sit. I just don't c where 80 lbs would come from. I don't mind doing the work necessary with food and regiments, im just not sure on the details that lead me to where i wanna be. I dotn think id be happy with cutting the weight necessary b/c then i would be flabby. Like i said id rather put on muscle as i cut, but if it will be easier to cut and then put on muscle, im down for that too.

pl8er
08-15-2009, 02:19 AM
I no that im gonna need to fill in a little bit once i lose the weight and i want that, but im not sure whether it would be something to do while i lose the weight or if it will be better to do once i lose the weight. The thing is with me is that most of the conventional stuff doesn't work for me. My bmi shows that im obese and i cant necessarily argue with that, but even at like 250 or lower with my height it still puts me at obese. But at like 250, id be small as shit. That would be like 80 pounds off of me as i sit. I just don't c where 80 lbs would come from. I don't mind doing the work necessary with food and regiments, im just not sure on the details that lead me to where i wanna be. I dotn think id be happy with cutting the weight necessary b/c then i would be flabby. Like i said id rather put on muscle as i cut, but if it will be easier to cut and then put on muscle, im down for that too.

You work some strange hours man!

adding muscle and losing weight happens, but not really from some magic training. I'd suggest shedding some fat, establishing a baseline and at that point going through a bulk cycle (using healthier foods) and cutting that.

Ignore BMI. I'm obese too. I'm 201 and 5'10". Does not calculate muscle very IMO.

Let me know your current lifting routine. Food you sorta have (I know you have questions and I think Junior will give you meals...honest Junior, I'd like one of your diet plans as well) and we can set you up with a routine for weights.

Toasted1
08-15-2009, 02:32 AM
You may also want to clarify if it is 1gm/lb of his goal weight or current weight. I believe I have seen people say it is the prior but figured it would be worth mentioning as it might make it a little easier for him seeing as we are not talking about a 20-30lb difference here=.

BabyHuey
08-19-2009, 05:13 PM
Well today i did barbell bench press, Seated decline bench, i dotn know what the exercise is called but its on a cable circuit machine and it was like a butterfly stroke in, lol sorry its hard to describe but ud know exactly what i was talkin bout if u saw it lol. And i did somethin else to. Then i came home, had a shake with frozen blueberries, strawberries, protein, a banana, and milk. And now im here lol. Ive been tryin to break into a routine for eating now too, but it seems hard on my days off because i have so much time to do stuff, where at work i usually have a stricter schedule to do stuff on time.

pl8er
08-19-2009, 08:14 PM
Well today i did barbell bench press, Seated decline bench, i dotn know what the exercise is called but its on a cable circuit machine and it was like a butterfly stroke in, lol sorry its hard to describe but ud know exactly what i was talkin bout if u saw it lol. And i did somethin else to. Then i came home, had a shake with frozen blueberries, strawberries, protein, a banana, and milk. And now im here lol. Ive been tryin to break into a routine for eating now too, but it seems hard on my days off because i have so much time to do stuff, where at work i usually have a stricter schedule to do stuff on time.

You're making the right steps. Just really focus on your times that you are eating. Set your cell for all the times where you normally forget if needed.

Now for your routine. How many reps are you doing per set and how many sets? If you are trying to trim down, start by lowering your weight and increasing your reps a bit. Also, don't lock your arms but give a half second pause at the press point. So if your doing bench you come down to your chest (pause) push up to your top point (pause) and back down. Flashing through the reps does nothing but show your ability to utilize gravity. Downward reps should be timed close to upward. Be tired even with light weights and high reps. It will start to help you cut up and you might even be surprised with added strength.

Get to Ohio sometime and you are more than welcome to hit the gym with me for a day.

bluecar
08-19-2009, 10:13 PM
I have outlook tell me when and what to eat. People lol when they schedule meetings but it works. Otherwise, I'd forget.