Progress without before photos

[mackin]

Don't have any before pictures, and I haven't been lifting that long anyway, but I started really skinny.

Don't bother critiquing poses or any of that gay stuff, just looking for suggestions of areas that need more work to catch up.

So far I've come up with shoulders, chest and lower parts of my back.

Sorry there aren't any upper thigh pictures!

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:swole: :weak:

[Goremageddon]

lol

[mackin]

:emo:

[Goremageddon]

the bluring of the face is totally necessary

[Goremageddon]

or are u covered in cum?

[Glock17]

Not bad at all bro..

[mackin]

the bluring of the face is totally necessary

or are u covered in cum?

meh. please don't ruin this thread.

[Goremageddon]

im just saying ur a pussy but good job

[mackin]

thanks man.

[pl8er]

what is your bmi right now? What is your current intake?

[pl8er]

You are lean mass my friend. I'd suggest a bulk during the winter months.

[Jamesypoo]

Nice calves, but damn you do need to work on that lower back. On with the chest pics.

[mackin]

lol idk..

I eat hella food. Can't really calculate how much because I eat at the dining center at school.

I think I might try those home made protein bars for more calories and such.

I am 6' and weigh 155

About my lower back, what are some exercises I can do that don't include a bar? There is only like 1 bar that I could use for anything at our weight room and it's always busy as fawk.

[pl8er]

I was thinking the same about the calves....really nice! Genetics or do you work the shit outta your legs?

[mackin]

haha definitely genetics. I am/was a novice so I only started doing legs like 3 weeks ago.

Otherwise hockey was my leg workout until senior year of high school.

[pl8er]

haha definitely genetics. I am/was a novice so I only started doing legs like 3 weeks ago.

Otherwise hockey was my leg workout until senior year of high school.

well to that I say fuck you :P


as for lower back, if you can pin your legs on your bed lean to the floor to form a 90 degree and bring your upper body up in line with your legs. Repeat for 10 and rest. Your back should be relatively strong, so hold it for longer in each rep than say a curl.

[mackin]

lol i repoasted in the first poast. lemme fix it.

edit: psych, i am too late. I will post here.

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[pl8er]

Gotta start hitting your core work harder....you appear to run arms heavy

[pl8er]

Still a very good foundation.

[mackin]

Gotta start hitting your core work harder....you appear to run arms heavy

Word. That is left over from my extreme novice days.

My routine included a Chest/Back/Shoulders day, followed by an Arms day :crap: And if I didn't remember what day I was on, I would automatically do arms. LOLZ

Now I am doing Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs/Shoulders.

I am catching up but my chest is still disappointing.

[pl8er]

Word. That is left over from my extreme novice days.

My routine included a Chest/Back/Shoulders day, followed by an Arms day :crap: And if I didn't remember what day I was on, I would automatically do arms. LOLZ

Now I am doing Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps, Legs/Shoulders.

I am catching up but my chest is still disappointing.

you got Dbells? If so, start hitting those at all angles (incline, decline, flat) Go light to medium light and use your abs to support your body while doing the reps (just leave your shoulders on the pad.)

[pl8er]

my back last spring...I should get a newer one. I'm gaining weigh in my sides during my bulk again (was starting to cut back in this picture)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/Tattoos/IMG_8766-1.jpg

[mackin]

you got Dbells? If so, start hitting those at all angles (incline, decline, flat) Go light to medium light and use your abs to support your body while doing the reps (just leave your shoulders on the pad.)

You mean keep my hips and shoulders on? Otherwise isn't that bad form?

I've been doing 5 sets of 5 on flat with 60lb db's followed by incline with 50's for like 3 sets of 8. Obviously it changes around, but I definitely need to add decline into the mix.

[mackin]

You are huge compared to me haha.

[Alpine4life89]

Your arms are decent size, but your back looks terrible. And how much do you bench?

edit: WTF, you said you are 6' and 155? I don't see how that is possible. You look about 165-170 to me. I am skinnier than you and i am 6'3, 192.

[mackin]

Your arms are decent size, but your back looks terrible. How tall are you, how much do you weigh and how much do you bench?

:crap:

I am 6 feet tall, 155lbs.

I've never maxed on bench because I always lift alone so I never have a spotter.

On Saturday I did 3 sets of 8 @ 155lbs on bench w/out a spotter.

[pl8er]

You are huge compared to me haha.

Eh, I have a ton of years on you...you have a much better foundation than I started with. You could easily get past my size.

I'm saying on some of your presses use your core. Plant your center of your shoulders at the edge of the bench and have your legs bent 90 degrees I'll try to find some pics.

[mackin]

unless every scale i've ever been on is wrong, I weigh 155.

My scale at home tells me this, as does the one at Liftime Fitness. :)

[mackin]

Eh, I have a ton of years on you...you have a much better foundation than I started with. You could easily get past my size.

I'm saying on some of your presses use your core. Plant your center of your shoulders at the edge of the bench and have your legs bent 90 degrees I'll try to find some pics.

Thanks for the help. Getting to your size would be really tough for me, I have a ton of trouble gaining weight. I suppose I will just have to eat extreme amounts lol.

[Alpine4life89]

It's hard to tell anything from those pictures because everyone of them it looks like you are flexing. Just stand relaxed and take a pic.

[pl8er]

Thanks for the help. Getting to your size would be really tough for me, I have a ton of trouble gaining weight. I suppose I will just have to eat extreme amounts lol.

I was super light until about 22 or 23.

What state do you live in? We have a lifetime in Easton...unless you meant lifttime.

Eating more helps, but what you eat matters far more. Chicken whites of eggs etc

pressing your bodyweight is very good!

[mackin]

I was super light until about 22 or 23.

What state do you live in? We have a lifetime in Easton...unless you meant lifttime.

Eating more helps, but what you eat matters far more. Chicken whites of eggs etc

pressing your bodyweight is very good!

Minnesota. We have tons of Lifetimes. I think there are like 4 within a 15 minute drive of me. Mine is less than 5 minutes from leaving my front door to entering lifetime.

Lifting at school absolutely blows though. It's crowded as shit and they don't have enough equipment. Db's are plentiful, but there is only one cage type thing to squat in lol.

[pl8er]

I would have guessed you about 160,

[IDSkot]

My dick has bigger muscles.

It's kinda freakish. :crap:

[mackin]

My legs must be ultra small then, because I've never weighed 160.


Good joke, joo.

[pl8er]

My legs must be ultra small then, because I've never weighed 160.


Good joke, joo.

Na, I'd say 160 cause you were flexing up.....i'm currently 218

[mackin]

Oh I see. How long do people usually bulk before they cut? I'm not trying to have extra fat come late spring/early summer.

[tapout]

Pl8er has it covered. Ill say, with your foundation, you needa serious bulk session. from now till the end of March. lift heavy and eat heavier. You need a weight gainer. With your metabolism it doesnt need to be that clean of a diet either. Lots of red meat plus other proteins and heavy on the carbs. An eight week cut afterwards will have you dialed in and ripped.

Dumbells are your friend. Heavy Dbs on all three chest positions. Heavy bent over one arm rows and a lat machine will get your back right. Heavy thigh workouts. Nice ab routine. For some extra rest, go lighter on the arm and calf workouts. Those look good. You dont wanna neglect them but they dont need alot of work.

In short...Eat, heavy chest workouts, squats, and when you are ready start deadlifting. And eat some more.

I could see you at 185 by April 1 and 175 ripped by June 1.

[pl8er]

set yourself a goal weight and watch your body fat percentage. Hit one or the other and stop and go into cutting. I'm going for 225 but 230 max and if I hit 16% body fat I stop no matter what.

any chance of getting a workout partner? Really makes reaching goals easier faster

[pl8er]

Pl8er has it covered. Ill say, with your foundation, you needa serious bulk session. from now till the end of March. lift heavy and eat heavier. You need a weight gainer. With your metabolism it doesnt need to be that clean of a diet either. Lots of red meat plus other proteins and heavy on the carbs. An eight week cut afterwards will have you dialed in and ripped.

Dumbells are your friend. Heavy Dbs on all three chest positions. Heavy bent over one arm rows and a lat machine will get your back right. Heavy thigh workouts. Nice ab routine. For some extra rest, go lighter on the arm and calf workouts. Those look good. You dont wanna neglect them but they dont need alot of work.

In short...Eat, heavy chest workouts, squats, and when you are ready start deadlifting. And eat some more.

I could see you at 185 by April 1 and 175 ripped by June 1.

wurd!

His routine may be difficult with no spotter and a packed facility. If you are serious about gaining size getting in shape, try going at an off hour when it isn't so busy.

[IDSkot]

And where's the pec shots?!

[Alpine4life89]

take new pics without flexing noW!!!!

[SiZcO]

im just saying ur a pussy but good job

mature

[pl8er]

take new pics without flexing noW!!!!

you played SM, didn't you?

[Alpine4life89]

the fuck is SM?

[bluecar]

Thing is, you look bigger than me and I weigh about 25 lbs more than you.

[Alpine4life89]

Thing is, you look bigger than me and I weigh about 25 lbs more than you.

That's what i said. Except i weigh 35 pounds more. There is no way his height and weight add up.

[mackin]

wurd!

His routine may be difficult with no spotter and a packed facility. If you are serious about gaining size getting in shape, try going at an off hour when it isn't so busy.
Yeah I try to get there when it isn't very busy. It's basically dead on Fridays and the rest of the weekend.
set yourself a goal weight and watch your body fat percentage. Hit one or the other and stop and go into cutting. I'm going for 225 but 230 max and if I hit 16% body fat I stop no matter what.

any chance of getting a workout partner? Really makes reaching goals easier faster
Workout partners never seem to workout. Pun intended. They never want to do my exercises, go when I want to, and are never committed.
Pl8er has it covered. Ill say, with your foundation, you needa serious bulk session. from now till the end of March. lift heavy and eat heavier. You need a weight gainer. With your metabolism it doesnt need to be that clean of a diet either. Lots of red meat plus other proteins and heavy on the carbs. An eight week cut afterwards will have you dialed in and ripped.

Dumbells are your friend. Heavy Dbs on all three chest positions. Heavy bent over one arm rows and a lat machine will get your back right. Heavy thigh workouts. Nice ab routine. For some extra rest, go lighter on the arm and calf workouts. Those look good. You dont wanna neglect them but they dont need alot of work.

In short...Eat, heavy chest workouts, squats, and when you are ready start deadlifting. And eat some more.

I could see you at 185 by April 1 and 175 ripped by June 1.

Holy hell. I wish I were at home so I could choose what I eat. I think I really need to check out those home made protein bars.

Would you guys suggest I continue on this 5x5 @ 60 pound trend for DB benching? (I think I can move up to 65 next chest day) I never really know how many reps and sets I should be shooting for.

Also, I tend to spend about 45 minutes in the weight room for each of my 3 days, and usually lift 6ish days a week.

Is that enough time per outing, or should I be adding lifts to work muscles harder?

[mackin]

And where's the pec shots?!
somewhere in here. I accidentally repoasted some pictures in the OP and couldn't edit so I had to throw them in the mix.
take new pics without flexing noW!!!!
Why?
That's what i said. Except i weigh 35 pounds more. There is no way his height and weight add up.
It fucking adds up.

[pl8er]

SM = Silentmurder

[pl8er]

I would reduce the number of times you are lifting to prevent overtraining and step up the weights. You should be failing on your last reps. I'm not saying load the weights, I'm saying properly lifting your weights should fatigue your muscles to the point of being weakened. Hell on many bicep days, my last set is with about 25-30lb db's and I can barely move those bitches.

[mackin]

When people post pics, don't they usually flex or is everyone on BB twice as jacked as they already look?

[pl8er]

When people post pics, don't they usually flex or is everyone on BB twice as jacked as they already look?

Pretty sure he is trolling you homie.

Until he posts positive information or a picture of his ripped body, I'd say ignore his comments.

[mackin]

I would reduce the number of times you are lifting to prevent overtraining and step up the weights. You should be failing on your last reps. I'm not saying load the weights, I'm saying properly lifting your weights should fatigue your muscles to the point of being weakened. Hell on many bicep days, my last set is with about 25-30lb db's and I can barely move those bitches.

:( Lifting is one of the few things I look forward to every day lol.

I am going to try adding some more lifts to my routine to make me more fatigued by the end of it.

[pl8er]

:( Lifting is one of the few things I look forward to every day lol.

I am going to try adding some more lifts to my routine to make me more fatigued by the end of it.

Totally with ya there. I'm giving you the advice that grows muscle most quickly, not what I personally do :laugh: I too look forward to it.

Keep mixing it up and do the bulk as suggested. Yeah, it sucks, you put on fat and you feel awful about yourself. People may even give you shit about working out 5 or 6 days a week and you're fat. Those same people will be saying "holy shit dude, your jacked" come spring when you cut down.

[pl8er]

you doing deadlifts, squats, and bench?

[pl8er]

speaking of lifting, i need to sleep, gym at 6:30 tomorrow (back and shoulders)

[mackin]

Totally with ya there. I'm giving you the advice that grows muscle most quickly, not what I personally do :laugh: I too look forward to it.

Keep mixing it up and do the bulk as suggested. Yeah, it sucks, you put on fat and you feel awful about yourself. People may even give you shit about working out 5 or 6 days a week and you're fat. Those same people will be saying "holy shit dude, your jacked" come spring when you cut down.
Yeah, I think mixing it up will be something I need to focus on. It's way too easy to just do the same thing everyday.
you doing deadlifts, squats, and bench?
Squats and Bench, yes. Deadlifts no. I wish there were more bars around to do this type of thing. I might just have to start waiting for the damn thing to be available.
speaking of lifting, i need to sleep, gym at 6:30 tomorrow (back and shoulders)
Just out of curiosity, how are your days organized?

Like mine are Chest/Triceps, Back/Biceps/Forearms, Legs/Shoulders.

[mackin]

Thing is, you look bigger than me and I weigh about 25 lbs more than you.

You keeping up with your workout plan?

[IDSkot]

I.
DEMAND.
PECTORALS.

I need fapping material for tonight.

[ThomasG]

lol idk..

I eat hella food. Can't really calculate how much because I eat at the dining center at school.

I think I might try those home made protein bars for more calories and such.

I am 6' and weigh 155

About my lower back, what are some exercises I can do that don't include a bar? There is only like 1 bar that I could use for anything at our weight room and it's always busy as fawk.

I doubt that. Unless you can tell me what your total calories for the week and macros.

Count, your cals it will show how little intake you're really eating.

Good job on sticking with training its a never ending Marathon. Pay more attention to your nutrition it plays a huge roll.

[bigtoyota479]

I.
DEMAND.
PECTORALS.

I need fapping material for tonight.

Idiot Jew. Read the damned thread.

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s350/IIMaCkiNII/DSCN2299.jpg

[mackin]

I doubt that. Unless you can tell me what your total calories for the week and macros.

Count, your cals it will show how little intake you're really eating.

Good job on sticking with training its a never ending Marathon. Pay more attention to your nutrition it plays a huge roll.

Can't really tell you much other than I feel like I'm constantly eating. I know it isn't always nutritional things though. I can't really make much great nutritious food in my dorm room.

[mackin]

Idiot Jew. Read the damned thread.

Thank you for helping our slow friend.

[bigtoyota479]

I'd post up pics of me, but I don't think you could see my pecs or anything through the damned hair.

[mackin]

I'd post up pics of me, but I don't think you could see my pecs or anything through the damned hair.

It will make you look bigger. :diversity:

[bigtoyota479]

Some days I wish I didn't have all this damned hair, but for some reason the wife likes it, so it stays. She's a weird motherfucker.

[bigtoyota479]

It will make you look bigger. :diversity:

Lol. I'm like you, youngin'. 6'1" and about 165-170 lbs, depending on the month. Been this way for 13 years. Eat what I want, when I want, don't gain a damned pound. Sucks for building mass, but I never lift or anything. Good luck with that, you're going to need it if your metabolism is like mine.

[conversehtnut]

i just started my whole gym thing too and im still trying to keep up with it since school is driving me nuts. only thing is im 5'10" 200. short and round. and the genetics dont help either. i dont eat much but i can never seem to loose any weight

[mackin]

i just started my whole gym thing too and im still trying to keep up with it since school is driving me nuts. only thing is im 5'10" 200. short and round. and the genetics dont help either. i dont eat much but i can never seem to loose any weight
I have no experience here. Do you eat healthy?
Lol. I'm like you, youngin'. 6'1" and about 165-170 lbs, depending on the month. Been this way for 13 years. Eat what I want, when I want, don't gain a damned pound. Sucks for building mass, but I never lift or anything. Good luck with that, you're going to need it if your metabolism is like mine.

Yep, over the summer I had a diet consisting of many fast food meals (late night) + dinner at home before that. Didn't gain anything.

Now I've been lifting hard, and eating more than ever, and I think I'm finally starting to get a little bit more weight on me. Unfortunately a lot of the things I eat are in the dorm room, so naturally they're pretty shitty for you. I only get 2 meals a day at the Dining Center.

[silvercookie]

i think my dead guinea pig could beat your ass.

[conversehtnut]

I have no experience here. Do you eat healthy?




kinda hard to with the college diet and all. i try to at least but it doesnt really go as good as it should

[Captain Ahab]

i just started my whole gym thing too and im still trying to keep up with it since school is driving me nuts. only thing is im 5'10" 200. short and round. and the genetics dont help either. i dont eat much but i can never seem to loose any weight

Short and round isn't necessarily bad genetics. I'm short and round.

Just takes dedication.

I put on weight EASILY too. Just takes more dedication to lose it.

[_AnGeL_]

YO BRAH! your face is mad whyte yo!

[pl8er]

Mon: bicep some core training
Tue: Back/Shoulders
Wed: Legs core training
Thur: Chest
Fri: tri's
Sat: just me solo and HEAVY doing supersets (normally concurrent with no rest until the entire superset is done)

~1 hour of working out with about 2 minutes average rest between sets. During a single machine I am about 30 seconds but as I walk from one side to the other....it factors in.

Superset example for ya: BENCH/CURLS/SHRUGS
BENCH
315X2
225X5
135X15-20
only rest enough to pull a plate from each side, maybe 10 seconds
Curl (straight bar only 50lbs)
25 reps
Shrugs @ 475 X 10

Not a true superset, but that is what I personally call it. By the third time around I'm usually winded and resting for greater periods of time.

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/CIMG0029.jpg

this is how packed it is when i'm working out in the morning ;)

[_AnGeL_]

lol, that shits empty. what time do you go work out?

[pl8er]

6:00-6:30am arrival time

[_AnGeL_]

that's early lol

[pl8er]

hell yeah.

[_AnGeL_]

i need to start going to the gym again :crap:

[pl8er]

so why not just start?

[_AnGeL_]

laziness TBH. lol

[pl8er]

usually the case.

[_AnGeL_]

and lack of motivation, i dont like going to the gym by myself. :(

[mackin]

i think my dead guinea pig could beat your ass.
Maybe. I don't have any fight experience.
kinda hard to with the college diet and all. i try to at least but it doesnt really go as good as it should
I know what you mean.


this is how packed it is when i'm working out in the morning ;)
Looks like the gym at school during Vikings games.
and lack of motivation, i dont like going to the gym by myself. :(

Your IPod can accompany you! :dirka:

[adio]

im just saying ur a pussy but good job

aw shit

[adio]

lol idk..

I eat hella food. Can't really calculate how much because I eat at the dining center at school.

I think I might try those home made protein bars for more calories and such.

I am 6' and weigh 155

About my lower back, what are some exercises I can do that don't include a bar? There is only like 1 bar that I could use for anything at our weight room and it's always busy as fawk.

dumbell deadlifts........

[pl8er]

dumbell deadlifts........

:hi-5: my boy Adio has got the 4-1-1. He isn't huge, but he is the guy someone picks a fight with and straight fucking lays them out.

[adio]

:hi-5: my boy Adio has got the 4-1-1. He isn't huge, but he is the guy someone picks a fight with and straight fucking lays them out.

:boobies:

[bluecar]

You keeping up with your workout plan?

Yes, but it is ever evolving

[pl8er]

Yes, but it is ever evolving

that is how you know it is going well :) good job homie, you're actually one of the few who I believed would keep going.

[bluecar]

that is how you know it is going well :) good job homie, you're actually one of the few who I believed would keep going.

I know it sounds gay as hell, but getting stronger actually provides benefits I didn't think of...like it being easier to lift/move stuff around the house.

[pl8er]

I know it sounds gay as hell, but getting stronger actually provides benefits I didn't think of...like it being easier to lift/move stuff around the house.

I do not think that is gay at all. Makes you feel better about yourself than mission accomplished.

I was going to use a truck to pull the bushes before I made my glass wall and realized I could dead lift them out :flex:

[adio]

I know it sounds gay as hell, but getting stronger actually provides benefits I didn't think of...like it being easier to lift/move stuff around the house.

bein able to lift stuff ain't gay..........

[Alpine4life89]

OP, if you can bench 155x8 you should be able to bench around 190 easily. Probably even 200. If you are really 155 that is really good, can you get anybody to spot you?

[mackin]

OP, if you can bench 155x8 you should be able to bench around 190 easily. Probably even 200. If you are really 155 that is really good, can you get anybody to spot you?
You mean for my max or what?
Yes, but it is ever evolving
Good shit.
dumbell deadlifts........
Should I be holding them in front of me or by my sides? I've seen both.

Stiff legs or do them bent?

Thanks again guys.

[Alpine4life89]

You mean for my max or what?

Good shit.

so just lay them out side by side and do it up?

Yeah max.

[mackin]

Idk I guess I could find a spotter. I'll wait until I go home again and lift with one of my friends lol.

[Captain Ahab]

Mon: bicep some core training
Tue: Back/Shoulders


Biceps before back day? Thats a bit odd.

Need bicep strength for back day.

No way in hell I could do back a day after biceps.

[IDSkot]

Idiot Jew. Read the damned thread.

http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s350/IIMaCkiNII/DSCN2299.jpg

Weak pecs are weak.

[Alpine4life89]

my pecs are even weaker. Fuck genetics. I think with him flexing like that his pecs appear bigger too.

I don't get how the fuck you are supposed to get the bottom of the pecs bigger. There is like nothing there for me, it pisses me off.

[thegreatestpenn]

eat. get lots of sleep. you'll get big

[Captain Ahab]

Genetics = excuse for PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Alpine4life89]

Genetics = excuse for PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It can take years for someone to develop muscle. Some people have to work about 5-10 years to get good results.

[mackin]

Weak pecs are weak.
Fuck you and you're douchy mohawk. I didn't come here to compete for forum's strongest man. I just wanted constructive input. :finga:
my pecs are even weaker. Fuck genetics. I think with him flexing like that his pecs appear bigger too.

I don't get how the fuck you are supposed to get the bottom of the pecs bigger. There is like nothing there for me, it pisses me off.
Decline bench will help the bottom. And I still don't get why you are so hooked on flexing for pics. Everyone does it when they post them..
Genetics = excuse for PUSSIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a good thing to live by. If you have bad genetics, just see it as one more thing to overcome that will make the result more satisfying.
It can take years for someone to develop muscle. Some people have to work about 5-10 years to get good results.
Idk about that. IMO there is a way for everyone to get results, some just might have to work harder at it.

[mackin]

Should I be holding them in front of me or by my sides? I've seen both.

Stiff legs or do them bent?

Thanks again guys.

Anybody have an answer for this? (referring to dumbbell deadlift)

:diversity:

[Captain Ahab]

It can take years for someone to develop muscle. Some people have to work about 5-10 years to get good results.

Pussy.

OMGZ I'M SHORT AND FAT AND THE GIRLS DON'T LIKE ME!

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/deerhunt1988/26poundflathead-4.jpg


This is a good thing to live by. If you have bad genetics, just see it as one more thing to overcome that will make the result more satisfying.


This

[Captain Ahab]

Anybody have an answer for this? (referring to dumbbell deadlift)

:diversity:

Stiff legged deadlift involves the hamstrings more. Depends on what you want to focus on more.

I'd still do them with DBs in front of me. Just would feel more "right" to me.

[mackin]

Thanks DH.

[Captain Ahab]

Also, I do stiff leg deadlifts on my leg day. Make sure I don't do back the day before or after. Squats + SL DL = sore lower back next day for me. Pretty good lower back workout.

[mackin]

Good info, Thanks.

[mackin]

So bulking basically sucks when you have to eat 2 times a day and can only snack in between.

For lunch today, I had 2.5 hot dogs, a plate of fries, and 2 milks. Towards the end I felt like throwing up :crap:

And that didn't even look like a ton of food, but once I started eating it, it definitely was lol.

[Captain Ahab]

Yeah its hard fitting meals in on a busy school schedule. During the summer it was easy for me to get in a good meal every 3 hours when I was cutting. I may have to eat a 800 calorie breakfast some mornings now to gain weight. And take protein bars to class to eat in between.

[Alpine4life89]

So bulking basically sucks when you have to eat 2 times a day and can only snack in between.

For lunch today, I had 2.5 hot dogs, a plate of fries, and 2 milks. Towards the end I felt like throwing up :crap:

And that didn't even look like a ton of food, but once I started eating it, it definitely was lol.

Add an item from the Mcdonalds dollar menu once every day if you are trying to gain weight. And drink lots of milk. You don't need to eat a ton of food if you eat super high calorie foods. It's hard to eat alot, i did it for a few days and gained weight, but it does make you feel sick.

[mackin]

Add an item from the Mcdonalds dollar menu once every day if you are trying to gain weight. And drink lots of milk. You don't need to eat a ton of food if you eat super high calorie foods. It's hard to eat alot, i did it for a few days and gained weight, but it does make you feel sick.

As much as I'd love to drive to McTitties everyday, I am not willing to sacrifice my prime ass parking spot. Parking permits for lots that are full 99% of the time sucks!

I've been having 2 glasses of milk with every meal so that I helpful.

Otherwise I've pretty much only been able to snack on shitty foods. I have chex mix all over the place, microwave popcorn, goldfish, etc..

Peanut butter bagels are something I try to eat a lot, but I run out right away.

I've also been having Campbells Chunky chicken noodle soup lol.

[mackin]

What do you guys think about this weight gainer?

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/serious-mass-p-241.html

I have ON Protein but have never had a weight gainer before.

How many servings do people usually have per day if they are on a bulk?
How much should I order if I only want it to last me until late Feb. or early March?

Thanks for all of the help guys. I've been repping as much as I can.

[Captain Ahab]

What do you guys think about this weight gainer?

http://www.optimumnutrition.com/products/serious-mass-p-241.html

I have ON Protein but have never had a weight gainer before.

How many servings do people usually have per day if they are on a bulk?
How much should I order if I only want it to last me until late Feb. or early March?

Thanks for all of the help guys. I've been repping as much as I can.

ON is a great company. Only protein I use.

Need to check on the servings per container on the weight gainer. A lot of times 3lbs is just like 25 servings on weight gainers.

[mackin]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/sm.html

If you look on the left hand side a few scrolls down, it says that for 6 pounds, it only has 8 servings per container.

Can that be right?

[Captain Ahab]

Yeah, cause a serving is damn near 3/4lb. lol.

A lot of weight gainers are like that and $$ if you use them daily.

[mackin]

Well fuck. I don't know what I'm going to do then.

I want to use a weight gainer, but I'm not trying to spend mad cash. I feel like I can't get enough good calories in my current situation.

[pl8er]

Biceps before back day? Thats a bit odd.

Need bicep strength for back day.

No way in hell I could do back a day after biceps.

Which is why I'm doing it. I can't really even use my bicep nor my forearms on Wednesday (which is why I do legs).

Well fuck. I don't know what I'm going to do then.

I want to use a weight gainer, but I'm not trying to spend mad cash. I feel like I can't get enough good calories in my current situation.

Eat more often :shrug:

[mackin]

Eat more often :shrug:

My meal plan calls for 2 meals a day. :crap:

Im just going to eat a ton of my junk food lol.

[pl8er]

My meal plan calls for 2 meals a day. :crap:

Im just going to eat a ton of my junk food lol.

If you're serious...give up :P

You need to space out your meals and recharge your body post workout.

[Captain Ahab]

Which is why I'm doing it. I can't really even use my bicep nor my forearms on Wednesday (which is why I do legs).



So you think your biceps need more work than your back?

Thats the only reasoning I can really see for it.

[mackin]

If you're serious...give up :P

You need to space out your meals and recharge your body post workout.

I need to figure something out. I only get 2 meals a day, so I need to get something high in calories that only requires a microwave or less.

[pl8er]

So you think your biceps need more work than your back?

Thats the only reasoning I can really see for it.

No doubt man...I have a very cut broad back and biceps that don't like to define.

[pl8er]

I need to figure something out. I only get 2 meals a day, so I need to get something high in calories that only requires a microwave or less.

budget for me, how much could you afford to spend a day?

[Captain Ahab]

No doubt man...I have a very cut broad back and biceps that don't like to define.

x2

my biceps are teh gay

At the end of my cut they were the only thing not cut. lol. I bet i'd have to get to like 7%bf for them to look really good.

[CockMuncher]

How do I get gains for my chest? My arms grow and my abs, but I can never get gains on my chest(pecks)

[Alpine4life89]

How long are you supposed to work your biceps?

[pl8er]

Focus on all angles....don't just stay working flat

[pl8er]

How long?

[pl8er]

try mixing up high weight low reps with high reps low weight and get in a bunch of incline/decline

[Alpine4life89]

never heard of incline or decline for biceps...

[pl8er]

never heard of incline or decline for biceps...

most likely why you are so small

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBInclineCurl.html

[Alpine4life89]

most likely why you are so small

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Biceps/DBInclineCurl.html

i'm going to start doing those. I didn't know they made a difference though. To gain size, should i stick with sets of 8 reps, or less?

[pl8er]

your muscles will adapt. Sticking to one exercise will lose results fast. Keep mixing it up. Sometimes hit weights that make you fail at 8....sometimes to high reps....do pull offs too. If you have a preacher curl machine load it with 10's...5 take off a 10 5 take of 10 and so on....if that isn't enough.....add a larger bottom plate.

[mackin]

budget for me, how much could you afford to spend a day?
Shit idk.. I am a college student without a job, so not much. I'd basically like to spend as little as possible.

Maybe I could get my parents to buy me some food, but they've always been skeptical about the whole protein/creatine/over training thing.
How do I get gains for my chest? My arms grow and my abs, but I can never get gains on my chest(pecks)
One thing that helped me was moving to dumbbells for a while. Flat, incline and decline are all necessary.

Push ups can help too. A friend of mine claims push ups were a big part of his benching increase. :shrug:

[pl8er]

Got a blender? Are you willing to really deal with drinking nasty shit?

get a blender, get protein and get peanut butter when it is on sale. Take 2 cups water, 2 or 3 scoops of protein, 1 or 2 heaping scoops of PB. If you can do skim milk instead of water do that and put ice in the milk. That will make a whole meal and high calorie.

[mackin]

Got a blender? Are you willing to really deal with drinking nasty shit?

get a blender, get protein and get peanut butter when it is on sale. Take 2 cups water, 2 or 3 scoops of protein, 1 or 2 heaping scoops of PB. If you can do skim milk instead of water do that and put ice in the milk. That will make a whole meal and high calorie.

To be honest, I am an extremely picky eater. I felt like throwing up from drinking Vanilla protein :crap:

What do you think about Thomas' Home made Protein bars? That seems like something I could eat.

http://www.crunktimes.com/ct/showthread.php?t=738

[pl8er]

great recipe and the cost is right. I've made something similar (by I've replace with wife). Cheaper, easier to control the ingredients.

[mackin]

great recipe and the cost is right. I've made something similar (by I've replace with wife). Cheaper, easier to control the ingredients.

Would you happen to know what the consistency of the bars is?

Like would they stay solid if they aren't 100% of the time refrigerated?

Also, is it true that each bar is upwards of 1000 calories? :)

[Captain Ahab]

How do I get gains for my chest? My arms grow and my abs, but I can never get gains on my chest(pecks)

Thats opposite of what most people experience IMO. Work harder on your chest is all I can say.

Flat benches, declines, inclines, and flies. Occasionally added in pullovers I mixed up these 4 exercises for a few years and got a great chest. Stayed in the 8-12 rep range majority of the time too.

most likely why you are so small


lol

[CockMuncher]

most likely why you are so small



....waits for it....



That's what she said!


One thing that helped me was moving to dumbbells for a while. Flat, incline and decline are all necessary.

Push ups can help too. A friend of mine claims push ups were a big part of his benching increase. :shrug:


Werd, I need to start getting on that incline and decline! much thanks!

Got a blender? Are you willing to really deal with drinking nasty shit?

get a blender, get protein and get peanut butter when it is on sale. Take 2 cups water, 2 or 3 scoops of protein, 1 or 2 heaping scoops of PB. If you can do skim milk instead of water do that and put ice in the milk. That will make a whole meal and high calorie.


Tastes so bad You'll shit bricks!

[pl8er]

When my wife made me bars, they didn't need to stay in the fridge. The calorie count will be dependent on how much of each you put in there.

Eat for fuel, not for flavor and you can easily pack some weight.

[pl8er]

I know you're a picky eater, but all I can say is suck it up. Either keep it down or throw it up. Throwing up is good ab workouts ;)

[mackin]

When my wife made me bars, they didn't need to stay in the fridge. The calorie count will be dependent on how much of each you put in there.

Eat for fuel, not for flavor and you can easily pack some weight.
I think I can handle eating these bars. Peanut Butter is delicious. Now I just need to get the ingredients together with some kitchen supplies.
I know you're a picky eater, but all I can say is suck it up. Either keep it down or throw it up. Throwing up is good ab workouts ;)
:crap:

[mackin]

Where do you guys usually gain the most unwanted weight when you bulk?

I've been eating more than usual for a few weeks now, and I seem to be getting some sexy fat on my stomach and sides. :hitit:

Still need to step up this bulkage though.

[Alpine4life89]

love handles my friend, love handles

[mackin]

word that's whats happening to me. I hope losing it is easy.

I suppose I should focus on bulking first though eh?

[Alpine4life89]

I don't think you need to bulk. You look big enough already, you just need to work your chest, core and lower back as much as possible. Just lift heavy and eat alot of protein and you will gain size naturally.

[mackin]

I is small. I must turn myself into a boss. :fyi:

[SPL Guru]

Steroids FTW!

I think i have a hookup on some mexican buffer

[mackin]

I eat that shit for breakfast, lunch and dinner. :fyi:

[mackin]

Deadlifting is pretty sick. The first time I did it my lower back was sore as balls.

I decided to do 3 sets of bent leg and then 3 sets of straight leg after I did squats.

I think today was my third time doing them. I started with 3 sets of 6 @ 135 bent leg and then did 3 sets of 6 @ 135, 155 and 175 straight legged.

Any tips for keeping a better grip while doing straight leg deadlifts? When I stepped up to 175 I had to stop at 6 reps because I felt like the bar was going to slip out of my hands. :crap:

[tapout]

lifting straps. Only use them when you get to heavy weight.

[Captain Ahab]

Where do you guys usually gain the most unwanted weight when you bulk?

I've been eating more than usual for a few weeks now, and I seem to be getting some sexy fat on my stomach and sides. :hitit:

Still need to step up this bulkage though.

lower gut, love handles,inner thighs

[tapout]

http://www.uniquefit1.com/images/view/303

http://www.thetrainingstationinc.com/strapped.jpg

Weight lifting straps are used to enhance your grip on heavy exercises like deadlifts, shrugs, cable rows, etc. Straps are normally used on back and trap exercises but can also be used on exercises like heavy dumbbell presses or curls.

It takes some practice to get the hang of using weight lifting straps, but it is worth the effort. Straps can dramatically improve your grip, which will allow you to better hit the back and traps. Most people can shrug more weight than their grip will allow.

How to use Weight Lifting Straps:

Wrist straps are usually a long strip of fabric (nylon, cotton, leather or suede) with a loop on one end. Place one end of the strap through the hole at the other end, the 2 straps should mirror each other.

Put your hand through the circle made by the strap.
With your palms facing up the straps should lay between your thumb and index finger on both hands.
Snug the strap tight around the wrist.
Place your hands on the bar with the strap hanging towards the floor.
Pull the strap under the bar and back over the top, repeat.
Twist the bar towards you to tighten the straps.
Tip: Strap in your least coordinated hand first.

Wrist straps can be beneficial in your training, but be careful not to over use them or you will end up with a weaker grip.

[J31Bro]

I've got absolutely nothing positive to add to this thread.. so I'll just post this.

[mackin]

lifting straps. Only use them when you get to heavy weight.
That's the thing. My heaviest deadlift isn't heavy lol.
I've got absolutely nothing positive to add to this thread.. so I'll just post this.
Thx


I just remembered something I learned in 8th grade when I learned how to lift.

The old one palm up one palm down trick. I need to try this out next time I'm deadlifting.

I would feel like too much of a pussy using lifting straps when I'm this small.

[Captain Ahab]

I use the one palm up, one palm down. Gives me a better grip.

[gymfreak101]

I use the one palm up, one palm down. Gives me a better grip.

you don't use wraps?

[mackin]

Holy shit ON Cookies and Cream tastes like complete shit. BB put in 2 free samples and the second will be thrown away lol.

[Captain Ahab]

you don't use wraps?

No. Probably why my traps are lagging too. I do wear gloves though.

Anyone got a link to some good wraps to buy?

[Captain Ahab]

Holy shit ON Cookies and Cream tastes like complete shit. BB put in 2 free samples and the second will be thrown away lol.

Don't buy the Rocky Road either. Those are the two worse flavors. I had to force myself to drink those.

All other flavors I can handle fine. I usually rotate between chocolate and strawberry now. got a good deal on banana creame at GNC once and bought 10lbs of it.

[mackin]

Yeah I usually just buy the Tropical Punch. I think it tastes pretty good.

I bought the Platinum Turbo Chocolate to use in Thomas's protein bars.

[Alpine4life89]

i fucking benched 185 today, almost my body weight. Fucking beast.

[bigtoyota479]

My penis benches 185, I think you can do better.

[Alpine4life89]

I'm getting there. I was benching 165 about 10 days ago. Protein is what makes you stronger, eat as much of that shit as you can.

[mackin]

i fucking benched 185 today, almost my body weight. Fucking beast.

how many sets and reps?

[Alpine4life89]

165 - 4
175 - 2
185 - 1

[mackin]

nice job nga.

[CockMuncher]

I notice where my shoulder blades are they are getting stretch marks, they are red? Does this mean im full of win and are growing?

[mackin]

It means your skin is unhealthy.

actually i made that up :domo:

[CockMuncher]

yea im definitely looking into oral steroids now. Im reading articles on the safe way to approach this. It seems the people that had bad experiences are the people who didnt keep up with their PCT.

[adio]

I notice where my shoulder blades are they are getting stretch marks, they are red? Does this mean im full of win and are growing?

it means ur about to grow wings and take flight into a glorious future............

[adio]

Holy shit ON Cookies and Cream tastes like complete shit. BB put in 2 free samples and the second will be thrown away lol.

did u try it with milk???

[pl8er]

As a few of you guys are thin and small stature, let me say that belts are EXCELLENT but your wrists are more than likely small. There is a better way to wrap the belt to more evenly distribute your weight across your wrists.

I'll make a video a bit later on it.

[pl8er]

yea im definitely looking into oral steroids now. Im reading articles on the safe way to approach this. It seems the people that had bad experiences are the people who didnt keep up with their PCT.


Monitor your levels, buy quality products and make sure to have post drugs as well. It will make you hit goals, but side effects are pretty certain.

[adio]

I is small. I must turn myself into a boss. :fyi:

:hilarious:. i love this yo

[adio]

if drinking protein milks you nauseous, try it with milk instead of water...............

[pl8er]

Aye, skim milk and just add some ice to it.

[Jamesypoo]

Ew, who drinks protein shakes with water

[Jamesypoo]

Hi, I'd like to order a milkshake.

[Jamesypoo]

Hold the milk.

[Jamesypoo]

:confused:

[CockMuncher]

Hold the milk.

Thats what she said!

Whats a quality drug, Anadrol?

[bluecar]

As a few of you guys are thin and small stature, let me say that belts are EXCELLENT but your wrists are more than likely small. There is a better way to wrap the belt to more evenly distribute your weight across your wrists.

I'll make a video a bit later on it.

I am interested in this...my wrists hurt during benching/lifting....pushups aren't too bad though.

[Captain Ahab]

yea im definitely looking into oral steroids now. Im reading articles on the safe way to approach this. It seems the people that had bad experiences are the people who didnt keep up with their PCT.
wtf?

Dude you have a long way to go before you even should consider steroids.

Fucking pussy raghead cockmuncher
Ew, who drinks protein shakes with water

This guy.

[CockMuncher]

Now listen here Baton Rouge, I am just reading about it. I am not going to buy anything until I am sure when to use it.

I first need to work on my diet, I know I am not eating enough. But its extremely hard for me to eat a lot of food, red meat at that, im use to chicken but not steaks and shit. I need to intake about 4000 calories a day for me to gain weight significantly.

[Captain Ahab]

Oats, Peanut Butter, nuts

[mackin]

did u try it with milk???
Nope, I don't have milk in my dorm. I really don't think it would make a difference for me though.
yea im definitely looking into oral steroids now. Im reading articles on the safe way to approach this. It seems the people that had bad experiences are the people who didnt keep up with their PCT.
Crazy ass.

Remember how that documentary showed that the guys on steroids couldn't stop using them even after they reached their goals? Just something to keep in mind..

[mackin]

Ew, who drinks protein shakes with water
I do

Now listen here Baton Rouge, I am just reading about it. I am not going to buy anything until I am sure when to use it.

I first need to work on my diet, I know I am not eating enough. But its extremely hard for me to eat a lot of food, red meat at that, im use to chicken but not steaks and shit. I need to intake about 4000 calories a day for me to gain weight significantly.

You best make sure you have a well rounded workout if you're seriously going to try steroids. :grin3:

[tapout]

i sometimes take my protien like a goody powder.
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[pl8er]

Skim Milk and ice...ice makes it thicker and adds water. I still put 2 cups of skim though.

[CockMuncher]

I want to look like Tapout someday, except without the skirt.

[adio]

does tapout even have an updated pic??

[tapout]

does tapout even have an updated pic??

No. Im too fat right now. :keke:

[Pop Da Hatch]

when driving truck, he eats gas station hotdogs 10 at a time. :fyi:

[Alpine4life89]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/39/70265606.jpg

[Pop Da Hatch]

look weak as fuck.

[Alpine4life89]

I can't help it i was stuck at 170 my entire life. I'm a hard gainer.

[mackin]

looks like you need incline and decline. :keke:

[pl8er]

pic is from 2007?

[mackin]

Good eye. Now Alpine will come tell us the time stamp is off on the camera, and then I will tell him to take one without a time stamp, or with a corrected one.

[_AnGeL_]

lol

[_AnGeL_]

listen here fucker, i can lol if i want to!

[statonburrell]

guys are tiny and need to spend some serious time in the kitchen.

first post.

[_AnGeL_]

they just need roids.....

[statonburrell]

nah, IGF1-LR3 is the only way to go.

[pl8er]

interesting....

[pl8er]

yes, it works...but so does hard work and dedication :shrug:

[statonburrell]

5'9" 190 here all natural 13% bodyfat currently..

[pl8er]

points at himself

[pl8er]

we have similar body types...i'll go grab my stats

[_AnGeL_]

hrm..... u haz riods?

[statonburrell]

lol nah, when i'm 21 i'll probably go on a cycle.. i would love to be around 205 5% BF or either 220 15% BF

[pl8er]

220 14.6%BF 5'10"

[pl8er]

oh and :wave: welcome to the forum :)

[statonburrell]

i just don't want to mess up my natural test levels which seem to be pretty good for my age so i've remained natural for quite a while


Pl8er let me get your diet bro!

[_AnGeL_]

hrmmmmm..........

pics of both of you guys.....






















yes homo :wink:

[statonburrell]

well i have 15 pounds of weiner.. so that could be to my dismay..

[_AnGeL_]

ZOMG!!!! no wai!!! me too!

[_AnGeL_]

i try to work it out as much as i can too.

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/Tattoos/IMG_8766-1.jpg

that was last spring??? or late winter...190-195 in that pic

[_AnGeL_]

hrmmmmm..... so how many years of going to the gym is that?

[statonburrell]

my chest, shoulders, and legs are my strong points, my arms and calves seem to grow horribly slow.. i've had 16" upper arms forever.. i would kill to get to 18". I'm also a 30" waist currently even with my high level of bodyfat!! I was a 28" waist back in highschool but only weighed 170

[pl8er]

well...it is 8, but seriously hitting it and reading up...maybe 2.5

[statonburrell]

hrmmmmm..... so how many years of going to the gym is that?

i have been working out as a "body builder" hard for a little over a year, but I use to play baseball in highschool so I have always been in a gym.

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/justin/IMG_6645-1.jpg

that was in the 180's

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/justin/IMG_6451.jpg

195

[pl8er]

205

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/CIMG0030.jpg

[statonburrell]

173@ 14% BF.. last year (Freshman year of college lol thats why I had so much BF)also was when i began to bulk
http://img192.imageshack.us/g/fotoflexerphotohp.jpg/
sorry no current pics
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4359/fotoflexerphotohp.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/fotoflexerphotohp.jpg/)http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/fotoflexerphotohp.jpg/1/w0.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img192/fotoflexerphotohp.jpg/1/)

[pl8er]

my chest, shoulders, and legs are my strong points, my arms and calves seem to grow horribly slow.. i've had 16" upper arms forever.. i would kill to get to 18". I'm also a 30" waist currently even with my high level of bodyfat!! I was a 28" waist back in highschool but only weighed 170

I'd kill for a 30" waist. During bulks, I always get it in the stomach and thighs.

[pl8er]

pic didn't work

[pl8er]

i got it by following the link

[statonburrell]

damn, why not.. i get horrible love handles thats where all my fat goes i hate it!!

[pl8er]

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6070/fotoflexerphotoo.jpg

[statonburrell]

wow looks like i have makeup on what a shit picture LOL

[pl8er]

Your neck is the dead give away that you workout.

[mackin]

damn, why not.. i get horrible love handles thats where all my fat goes i hate it!!

x2

I don't get it though, I am definitely getting bigger, and unfortunately getting a little bit of fat, but I only weigh 157ish vs 155 when I first posted.

[statonburrell]

lol thanks, i've never heard that before really. I've been absolutely destroying my traps the past couple months and it shows.. I want the galapagose turtle shells connecting my neck and shoulders!

[mackin]

you're big, son. I hope I can get that big. Then I would just try to get shredded lol.

[pl8er]

shrugs and deadlifts.

Mackin - fat happens. It is winter, just accept it. Great example is Deerhunter. He has been a chubby bunny before and he gets absolutely SHREDDED. I am not as fortunate.

[statonburrell]

i cut in the winter! your body naturally burns more fat in the winter... I am doing all my high rep workouts now and cardio.. blaggghhh

[pl8er]

I'll go take a pic of myself in work clothes here in a sec at 220. This is as big (read fat) as I have been in my entire life.

What is your max SB?

[pl8er]

on bench

[pl8er]

The body DOES burn more naturally but we tend to be more active in the summer months

[pl8er]

Mackin is small, so it is important to establish a foundation to cut against.