Build Walls

[IDSkot]

I know a few of you are construction guys... here's my project...
I'm looking to make an addition on my house. I have a back terrace. It has a flat roof which is just made out of four or three (I forget) metal supports and wood with the same material they make shingles out of on the top.

As for the electrical, there's a line with 4 recepticals on the metal support beam that goes from one side to the other. I was going to take out those outlets, and just have the metal line run to the addition.


So, how do I build a secure wall?

[Hairyballzonya]

With wood.

[Porch Monkey]

anchors and sweat

[_AnGeL_]

get some messicans to do it for cheap
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[Porch Monkey]

yup, not peurto ricans they're not good for anything

[bigtoyota479]

Pics or GTFO. Srs bro, get some pics of what's already there.

[IDSkot]

anchors and sweat

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022_treasure_island_anchor.jpg?


Can I get an at least half way decent response? I don't know how to anchor it.

[IDSkot]

Pics or GTFO. Srs bro, get some pics of what's already there.

I will in the AM. It's too dark right now and pictures would be stupid at this time.

[bigtoyota479]

If there's no foundation out there, you're going to have a big problem, lol.

[_AnGeL_]

yup, not peurto ricans they're not good for anything

this.
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[evildave101]

http://wayneofthewoods.com/Tiphowtoframeawall.htm

[evildave101]

If there's no foundation out there, you're going to have a big problem, lol.

this

[Porch Monkey]

Get a permit!!!! Then grade out the land, make some forms, lay some rebar for reinforcement per your city's building codes, pour your slab, and start from there.

[IDSkot]

http://wayneofthewoods.com/Tiphowtoframeawall.htm

I live in Miami... first hurricane that comes by would own the shit out of that puny wall.

[Porch Monkey]

lol sorry we're not cheap like Jew

[evildave101]

I live in Miami... first hurricane that comes by would own the shit out of that puny wall.

i didnt mean "build it like this"

more of a general idea of how to build a wall

[Porch Monkey]

if you build it cheap, the Jews will come...

[IDSkot]

lol sorry we're not cheap like Jew

ITT: This Jew is not cheap.

i didnt mean "build it like this"

more of a general idea of how to build a wall

Thanks. I know that part. My only lack of knowledge comes in anchoring it.
I was planning on using cinder blocks. I just don't know how to make the wall of cinder blocks stationary and able to take a shit load of force due to me being in hurricane fucking central.

[evildave101]

you need a footing and rebar, grouted solid

[bigtoyota479]

you need a footing and rebar, grouted solid

This. You need a reinforced foundation. No cinder blocks!!

[evildave101]

http://www.acehardware.com/info/index.jsp?categoryId=1283397

[evildave101]

and this will most likely stand up to about any hurricane you could get

http://www.rewardwalls.com/getting-started/

[IDSkot]

http://www.acehardware.com/info/index.jsp?categoryId=1283397

Word. This is what I needed.

[evildave101]

word
:diversity:

[gymfreak101]

You have your own house or parents? First thing you are going to need is a permit. If you are not good with your hands don't even tackle this.

[bigtoyota479]

Eh? You guys use concrete blocks down there? Over here, we form up a foundation and do it in a single pour. You guys are weird.

[gymfreak101]

You have to make sure evrything is up to code first also every state has it's own

[fbi90909]

you upgrading that trailer to a double wide?

:P

[IDSkot]

You have your own house or parents? First thing you are going to need is a permit. If you are not good with your hands don't even tackle this.

You have to make sure evrything is up to code first also every county has it's own

My Mom's house... and I'm good with my hands and building things. I just lack the knowledge.
My Mom works for the county reviewing plans and such. So, I got that shit on pact.
And fixed.

Eh? You guys use concrete blocks down there? Over here, we form up a foundation and do it in a single pour. You guys are weird.

Concrete blocks for the wall, for foundation we use concrete.

[gymfreak101]

My Mom's house... and I'm good with my hands and building things. I just lack the knowledge.
My Mom works for the county reviewing plans and such. So, I got that shit on pact.
And fixed.



Concrete blocks for the wall, for foundation we use concrete.

I just moved from jax do you have typical Florida stucko house?

[IDSkot]

I just moved from jax do you have typical Florida stucko house?

Yeah... :crap:

[bigtoyota479]

Ah, that's the reason for the concrete blocks. Up here, we don't have hurricanes, or tornadoes, or any of that windy nasty shit. We just use wood, lol.

[IDSkot]

Ah, that's the reason for the concrete blocks. Up here, we don't have hurricanes, or tornadoes, or any of that windy nasty shit. We just use wood, lol.

Man, I wish. My fence actually takes a lot of the winds... and we have to rebuild it once every few hurricanes. Most of the time the shit in the back yard barely moves... considering there's 100+ mph winds.

[IDSkot]

I do have a question, though. How do I secure those strips of wood for dry wall?

[bigtoyota479]

Can't help you there. I don't know what I'm doing with concrete blocks, other than for retaining walls and such.

[IDSkot]

Can't help you there. I don't know what I'm doing with concrete blocks, other than for retaining walls and such.

FIND ME A LINK!
And a picture of your wife.

[bigtoyota479]

FIND ME A LINK!
And a picture of your wife.

The pic of my wife is in the Halloween costume thread. Find it yourself.

Is this going to be an exterior wall? Are you going to need outlets or electrical boxes/switch boxes on the cinder block walls? There are a couple of ways to do it, but if it's an exterior wall and you need insulation, there's only one right way, lol.

[IDSkot]

The pic of my wife is in the Halloween costume thread. Find it yourself.

Is this going to be an exterior wall? Are you going to need outlets or electrical boxes/switch boxes on the cinder block walls? There are a couple of ways to do it, but if it's an exterior wall and you need insulation, there's only one right way, lol.

It's an outside wall. So educate me.

[bigtoyota479]

If it were me, personally, I'd put up the cinder block wall on the foundation. Then I'd do my floor with joists. You do that down there, right? Then I'd just frame up a 2x4 wall against the cinder blocks. That way you have room for insulation, wiring, electrical boxes, etc. Basically stick frame a wall against the cinder block wall you have.

[bigtoyota479]

You can do the furring strips and hang drywall on that, but it doesn't leave any room for insulation or electrical.

[IDSkot]

If it were me, personally, I'd put up the cinder block wall on the foundation. Then I'd do my floor with joists. You do that down there, right? Then I'd just frame up a 2x4 wall against the cinder blocks. That way you have room for insulation, wiring, electrical boxes, etc. Basically stick frame a wall against the cinder block wall you have.

You can do the furring strips and hang drywall on that, but it doesn't leave any room for insulation or electrical.

Alright. I'll do that. But how do I secure the frame to the cinder blocks?

And we don't use joists... usually. But I might. This room is going to be a recording area... for now. When I move out who knows what my Mom'll do with it.

[bigtoyota479]

Ok, so if you don't have joists, how do you do the floor then? Just going to leave it concrete and then carpet it or something?

As far as securing it to the wall, you can get some angle brackets and some RamSets. Shouldn't need much, though, if the wall is secured to the floor and the trusses/roof.

[IDSkot]

Ok, so if you don't have joists, how do you do the floor then? Just going to leave it concrete and then carpet it or something?

As far as securing it to the wall, you can get some angle brackets and some RamSets. Shouldn't need much, though, if the wall is secured to the floor and the trusses/roof.

Exactly. You forget I live in South Florida where it's hot as hell. The majority of the houses have tile to help cool the house. They just motar the tile straight to the foundation.

[bigtoyota479]

In that case, just do the 2x4 construction with no insulation, lol. Plenty of room to run wires and boxes, and plenty sturdy enough to hang sheetrock on. If that's too much work, just get some 1x2 furring strips and some RamSets and go to town.

[IDSkot]

In that case, just do the 2x4 construction with no insulation, lol. Plenty of room to run wires and boxes, and plenty sturdy enough to hang sheetrock on. If that's too much work, just get some 1x2 furring strips and some RamSets and go to town.

I might do minimal insulation. Not over kill. Just a bit of it... depending on how expensive it is. I don't think my Mom's gunna help me out on the cost... so... it might be a "work in progress" type of thing.

[bigtoyota479]

I know Lowe's website has a cost estimator for decks. I wonder if they have one for rooms as well? May be worth a look, if for nothing more than a ballpark.

Oh, and permits. That way your insurance will still cover the house when you are done.

[IDSkot]

I know Lowe's website has a cost estimator for decks. I wonder if they have one for rooms as well? May be worth a look, if for nothing more than a ballpark.

Oh, and permits. That way your insurance will still cover the house when you are done.

I told you... My Mom works for that section for all of Miami. She'll get the permit for me. PARA GRATIS.

[bigtoyota479]

I must have missed that post. Sorry.

[IDSkot]

Can I use cinder blocks as joists rather than wood? I'm mainly concerned with longevity.

[bigtoyota479]

I don't think so, but you're talking about code in a region so different from mine, it may as well be another world. It all depends on what the code has to say about it. I know the code for this neck of the woods, but yours is way different. I don't know how they build things down there, and from what I'm hearing, it's waaaayyy different than us.

[IDSkot]

I don't think so, but you're talking about code in a region so different from mine, it may as well be another world. It all depends on what the code has to say about it. I know the code for this neck of the woods, but yours is way different. I don't know how they build things down there, and from what I'm hearing, it's waaaayyy different then us.

Yeah. The whole idea is that everything is attached to the foundation so your shit doesn't fly away during a storm. I'll ask the Moms.

[bigtoyota479]

Well, here we pour a foundation, cut notches in it, and put our joists in the notches, supported along the way by blocks sitting on concrete pads.

[Porch Monkey]

lego block house

[Toasted1]

in for pictures of the house implosion

[Porch Monkey]

www.contractor-talk.com (http://www.contractor-talk.com) ask there

[bigtoyota479]

Or, you could go down to the permit office to get your permits and get some ad...e there. They can give you the code requirements, and have pretty pictures too.