Deerhunt's Official 2010 Cutting Thread: From fatty to ripped

[Captain Ahab]

This thread should serve as motivation to some of you fat asses. It will be the most epic weight loss thread this forum has seen.

Here I will document my progress.



I went from this: 176lbs July 30th, 2009
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to this: 203lbs January 6th, 2010
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AND THIS ONES FOR YOU HAIRY!
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BULK FAIL! But my strength probably reached an all time high, just didn't max to really see. And I am sure I put on a pound or two of muscle I lost while cutting before under all that flab.


My diet since August has consisted of whatever the fuck I wanted to eat whenever. Lots of fast food, and a shit ton of alcohol.Seriously probably averaged getting drunk 3 times a week. Only turn 21 once, and it was my first semester of my senior year in college so I lived it up and have no regrets. I am all partied out and shit is about to get serious.



I haven't even lifted but a few times the past month and a half. I had several big projects and finals around Mid-November and early December. Also deer season started. Plus I bought a PS3. That mother fucker made me lazy. I just decided i'd enjoy my break, hunted a shit ton, and neglected the weights.





So heres the plan.
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Wait, what?



Seriously. Here is my supplement stack. Before you tell me the aspirin isn't needed, fuck you. I'm using it.
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab306/deerhunt19882/SS850010.jpg


The first month I am going to aim for 2,500 calories a day and 220g protein. No set cardio schedule due to walking several miles a week with a stand on my back deer hunting. I will break out the treadmill and do some 30-45 minute walks when I wake up some mornings and after some workouts. Goal is to shed 8 pounds the first month.

Workout routine is going to be basic.
5 Day Full Body Split with reps in the 6-10 range for compound exercises and 8-12 range for other exercises. I will probably do this the entire first month to get my muscles back in tune.


The only set meals will be breakfast and before bed.

For breakfast:
2 whole eggs
3 egg whites
cup of oats
and either another whole egg or a piece of toast


Before bed:
Fat free cottage cheese + Vanilla Casein Protein Powder + blueberries

The other 3-4 meals will be a lean meat such as fish, deer, or chicken and rice. Or a 1/4lb meat sandwich on wheat with lowfat cheese. Sweet taters, fat free yogurt, tuna + hamburger helper singles, rice cakes, and mixed veggies will be the rest of my diet. I will stray from it few and far between.

I may have a cheat meal ever 2 weeks or so. But as of right now I doubt I do for a month.

Home made protein bars will also be in the mix. My current recipe has them @ 384 calories, 38.5g protein, 6.5g fat, and 45.1g carb per bar.

No drinking period except for maybe special occassions (concert in town, someone's b-day, etc). The way its looking now there may be no drinking for months.

Well I think I have about covered it all. My plan will change slightly each month according to my weight loss. I know I can afford to lose weight more quickly now than I can later. And from my past experience the loss will come a lot quicker now. I wouldn't be surprised to lose 10lbs this first month if the ECA stack does what it did last time. Proceeding months will call for a stricter set cardio schedule also.


My overall goal is going to be around 8% bodyfat. If it takes 8 months, I will get it.




Also, I will make a contest. $10 paypal to the person who guesses closest on how many days it will take me to get back down to 180lbs.


And one more thing. I take this shit serious. If you have any doubts, your going to be proved wrong.



Flame away at how I ruined my Tappin Azz body in a measly 5 months. It will give me motivation.


I will update with pics and plan changes every month.

Enjoy.

[_AnGeL_]

ubber bulk.

[_AnGeL_]

15 days to reach 180.

[Captain Ahab]

15 days to reach 180.

I bet you failed math.

[_AnGeL_]

I bet you failed math.

1.5 lbs a day was my guess. i dont know much about losing weight/cutting as ive never done this shit brah. do you lose more than that or less?

[Captain Ahab]

The protein is essential. When you reduce your calories to lose weight you need protein to retain muscle mass. The white jug is whey, the other is casein. Whey absorbs quickly, casein absorbs more slowly (good for before you sleep).

The front three items are for a ECA stack. The Bronk Aid has the Epehedera, then I got caffeine and aspirin. Forgot to mention, starting out 1 bronkaid (25mg ephedera sulfate) with 200mg caffeine and 1 baby aspirin. Gonna take 2ce a day. Will up ephedera dosage as cycle progresses.

Mutli-vitamin is to get all the good shit I need since my diet will be so strict.

BCA is supposed to help retain muscle mass. I had it leftover from my last cut and need to use it anyway.

Creatine for strength.

[Captain Ahab]

1.5 lbs a day was my guess. i dont know much about losing weight/cutting as ive never done this shit brah. do you lose more than that or less?

Read the whole fucking thread next time, messicant.

[Spider Monkey]

God damn you get fat fast.

Rock it out bb!

[hoss]

Oh damn, I saw DH and fatty in the title, and I expected there ro be gurls itt...

[_AnGeL_]

Read the whole fucking thread next time, messicant.

:crap: lolz

[Captain Ahab]

God damn you get fat fast.

Rock it out bb!

Tell me about it. Its super easy for me to gain weight. Why i was a fatty as I kid.

I can tell you one thing. After this go around I definitely am not letting myself get like that again.

Oh damn, I saw DH and fatty in the title, and I expected there ro be gurls itt...

Not gonna be any more fat girls anytime soon.

Last night I gave the current chub an ultimatum. Cut with me or I am cutting you out. I think I hurt her feelings. Oh well.

[Spider Monkey]

Tell me about it. Its super easy for me to gain weight. Why i was a fatty as I kid.

I can tell you one thing. After this go around I definitely am not letting myself get like that again.



Not gonna be any more fat girls anytime soon.

Last night I gave the current chub an ultimatum. Cut with me or I am cutting you out. I think I hurt her feelings. Oh well.



LOL. She is loosing her teddy bear.

[pl8er]

I'm hellA happy you posted this. I'm not starting my cut until next month, but I'm going to follow your plan right down to the supplements. So I apologize now for the high number of questions I will be asking :)

[pl8er]

I could use that protein recipe too. I have one, but I want to compare.

[mackin]

Not gonna be any more fat girls anytime soon.

Last night I gave the current chub an ultimatum. Cut with me or I am cutting you out. I think I hurt her feelings. Oh well.

:hilarious: Even funnier that they don't even want to get in shape.

In other news, did you gain much muscle mass? Your legs look to be about the same size as before. :crap:

Also, is a 5 day full body split doing full body workouts five days a week? I am just starting a 5 day split but with different muscles on each day. Shit's intense. My back is sore as tits today.

[gymfreak101]

where do you get the ephedra ?

[pl8er]

was wondering that myself

[gymfreak101]

was wondering that myself

I know where to get the eca stack in pill form but it is expensive, I think I told DH about ephedra a long time ago. I can eat whatever I want when I am on the stack and not gain a lb.

[_AnGeL_]

riod heads ITT.

[pl8er]

I know where to get the eca stack in pill form but it is expensive, I think I told DH about ephedra a long time ago. I can eat whatever I want when I am on the stack and not gain a lb.

I used to do ephedra...good stuff.

If you have the hook-up, I'll buy through you (if you don't mind)

[gymfreak101]

I used to do ephedra...good stuff.

If you have the hook-up, I'll buy through you (if you don't mind)

http://www.fitnessone.com/exn-p-611.html

legit site.

[pl8er]

that is ephedra?

[pl8er]

interesting...good to know...

[_AnGeL_]

wtf is it?

[gymfreak101]

yes

[pl8er]

I'd rep you, but I cannot until I spread it more.

[gymfreak101]

I'd rep you, but I cannot until I spread it more.

cool I don't even know what rep is lol.

[pl8er]

cool I don't even know what rep is lol.

crunk powah!

Get enough crunk from the right people, and you get to the land of crunkness...

[SiZcO]

EC stack is win. i use bronkaid(ephedera sulfate) with nodoz has worked great

[J31Bro]

So heres the plan.
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab306/deerhunt19882/SS850009.jpg


Wait, what?

I fucking lost it. +1, will give more when I can.

[Captain Ahab]

LOL. She is loosing her teddy bear.
Yup. She just texted me saying
"Well don't even worry about it then you don't have to worry bout talking to me any more thats just ugh i never would have thought that coming from you"

Well fuck, I am about to have a bachelor's degree and your ass quit school and is working as a bartender at Applebee's. Of course I can do better bitch.

I could use that protein recipe too. I have one, but I want to compare.
1 1/2 cup oats
5 scoops whey
2 eggs
1/2 cup milk
3 bananas
Liquify all in blender, minus about half a cup of oats.

Put in oven @ 400 for 18-20 minutes
Take out, throw rest of oats on top.


Shit is nom. I have used vanilla protein powder and currently use strawberry for them. LOVE the bars! Taste better than the ones you buy fo sho.
:hilarious: Even funnier that they don't even want to get in shape.

In other news, did you gain much muscle mass? Your legs look to be about the same size as before. :crap:

Also, is a 5 day full body split doing full body workouts five days a week? I am just starting a 5 day split but with different muscles on each day. Shit's intense. My back is sore as tits today.

I won't know if I gained much until I cut back down. Even if I didn't oh well. Being tone is my main goal. I will get serious about mass this fall. Gains for me come a lot harder now as far as mass.

where do you get the ephedra ?
Over the counter @ my local pharmacy
I know where to get the eca stack in pill form but it is expensive, I think I told DH about ephedra a long time ago. I can eat whatever I want when I am on the stack and not gain a lb.

http://www.fitnessone.com/exn-p-611.html

legit site.

That stuff IS legit!!! Better than the stack I'm doing. That stuff had me unable to sleep right for like 2 weeks. I was shaking and shit in class. Couldn't hardly eat. I may buy another bottle of it. Just seemed a lot stouter than what I am taking.

I fucking lost it. +1, will give more when I can.
bout fucking time someone mentioned that

[Spider Monkey]

Yup. She just texted me saying
"Well don't even worry about it then you don't have to worry bout talking to me any more thats just ugh i never would have thought that coming from you"

Well fuck, I am about to have a bachelor's degree and your ass quit school and is working as a bartender at Applebee's. Of course I can do better bitch.



Some people don't want to live without diabetus bro.

[tapout]

wewt. On board.

[adio]

short dude is here

[Porch Monkey]

I can't do the ECA stack. :( HBP + mega heartburn

FML

[Goremageddon]

i just want to tone up -.-

[ThomasG]

Nice, I wish you success looks like you have quite a bit of work in front of you but definitely nothing that can't be accomplished in time for the season. Remember fitday.com is your friend.

[Captain Ahab]

Well the first day back lifting went great. Did chest and abs. Felt awesome.

Following day (2 days ago) I did legs and didn't know if I was going to make it through the workout. Ha. Only did 2 sets of leg xts for warmup, 4 sets of squats, 2 sets of SLDL, 2 sets of hack squats, 2 sets of leg curls, and 2 sets of LX. I was getting light headed, headache, sick to my stomach. I know it was a combination of my weight room being like 42 degrees and the ECA stack.

That was 2 days ago and I still can't get around good today. Entire body is sore as fuck.

Have no appetite from the ECA stack, forcing myself to eat.

Going to try to do upper back tomorrow and traps, seeing as how lower back is bad sore from squats and SLDL.

[pl8er]

good job!!

[Captain Ahab]

Signed up for fitday.

I haven't even really been counting calories though. I counted so much last summer I know what a 400 calorie meal is.

Like how you can put custom foods in fitday though...

May try a diet next month with low calories and ridiculous amounts of protein..... Fitday would be awesome for that... Maybe 2,100 calories and 250g+ protein?

[pl8er]

bump for Adio

[Jamesypoo]

Well fuck, I am about to have a bachelor's degree and your ass quit school and is working as a bartender at Applebee's. Of course I can do better bitch.


Ahhahaha.. that was serious funny.

[adio]

hahahhahhhahaha, thanks

[ThomasG]

2100 cals seems really low for the type of workouts you are doing. Take it slow and steady 1-2lbs per week if want to maximize fat loss with minimal muscle loss. You'll just have to find what the magic calorie number is for you to lose 1-2 lbs a week which is 3500-7000 calories below maintenance per week. If you gain weight easy then I'd stick with something more along the line of 2500 cals getting anywhere from 0.8-2g of protein per lb of BW.

[Captain Ahab]

It all depends on how much I lose this first month. Its hard for me to get in even 2,500 calories of clean food right now cause the ECA stack. After another week my appetite should come back and I should be good to go.

And
:fu:
I don't know if I am even going to be able to workout today. I will push through the workout but I still can't walk right. haha.

[ThomasG]

Invest in a foam roller. Best thing I ever did for lower body recovery.

[Uncle Rico]

If this crap works, Im about 2 do it as well. Losing weight is pretty easy for me though. But i need 2 go on a craaazy cut. Seeing as though I have lost like 40% of the muscle that I had. :(

[tapout]

Of course it works. He was worse before he got ripped the first time.

Dont make excuses. You know what to do. Less time on FB and more time making your life better. Getting in shape does more for your personal life besides make you ripped for the ladies. Your life is better from top to bottom. It will get you out of a rut whether with girls, jobs, money, family. You just look at things differently.

DO IT.

[Uncle Rico]

Of course it works. He was worse before he got ripped the first time.

Dont make excuses. You know what to do. Less time on FB and more time making your life better. Getting in shape does more for your personal life besides make you ripped for the ladies. Your life is better from top to bottom. It will get you out of a rut whether with girls, jobs, money, family. You just look at things differently.

DO IT.

Hahahah....Thats exactly what I needed 2 hear. Thanks

[Captain Ahab]

Of course it works. He was worse before he got ripped the first time.

Dont make excuses. You know what to do. Less time on FB and more time making your life better. Getting in shape does more for your personal life besides make you ripped for the ladies. Your life is better from top to bottom. It will get you out of a rut whether with girls, jobs, money, family. You just look at things differently.

DO IT.

x eleventy billion

I was probably 2-3% higher bf when I started cutting last February.
Now I know the ropes and know how easy it is once you get in the routine.

Some people think its hard. Its not. And like tappy said, I feel my life improves. I feel better overall, feel more accomplished, and more disciplined (BY FAR with no alcohol). Make better grades in school, take life more seriously. Its full of benefits. Not to mention all the compliments. In general you just feel a hell of a lot better. I already feel a hell of a lot better and I bet I have just lost a pound so far.

[Spider Monkey]

Hahahah....Thats exactly what I needed 2 hear. Thanks

I'll send Tapout after your ass if you don't.


:fyi:

[Uncle Rico]

Lol, Tappy doesnt scare me. He isnt big enough :)

[J31Bro]

Lol, Tappy doesnt scare me. He isnt big enough :)

*shits down leg*

[ThomasG]

If this crap works, Im about 2 do it as well. Losing weight is pretty easy for me though. But i need 2 go on a craaazy cut. Seeing as though I have lost like 40% of the muscle that I had. :(

No. Well, if you want muscle that is.

[tapout]

Lol, Tappy doesnt scare me. He isnt big enough :)

I still wouldnt expect you to be scared of me, but add 60 pounds to mental image you have of me.

[pl8er]

You going to do weekly pictures or what?

[Uncle Rico]

No. Well, if you want muscle that is.

Dont worry about this mr. nutritionman. I pretty much got this. I'll ask if I have a question.

[tapout]

lulz.

He just doesnt realize how hardcore you really are.

[Captain Ahab]

You going to do weekly pictures or what?

Monthly. But weekly may be cool if someone could do a gif of the transformation or something.



Today I had a great back workout. Got ol' girl to walk on the treadmill. She got in 2.67 miles by the time I finished.


Tomorrow will be shoulders/traps and next day arms.

[ngsm13]

Cools.

nG

[Captain Ahab]

My room mate and FB are amazed that I can eat so often and still lose weight. It was also amazement to people last summer.

Getting appetite back. This morning for breakfast I ate 3 whole eggs,2 egg whites, half a cup of oats w/ milk + splenda +cinnamon, and a piece of whole wheat toast. Biggest breakfast I have been able to eat yet.

Got country music blasting, Taylor Swift just came on, and I am feeling awesome for a Monday!

Going to be an excellent cut cycle this time, no doubt.

[pl8er]

Do weekly and I will have the wife do a transformation pic. It's easy peezy for her.

[pl8er]

Feb 1 starts mine. Already bought a blender and I am drinking a shake while typing this.

[junior]

Hey Nathan, Good to see you getting back on track. You'll have no problem this time around. You had major determination last time and handled it no problem. You have my email and phone #, so if you want a hand again this time, don't be afraid to get a hold of me. I've freed up some of my time now, so I will be around more often to answer any questions you may have. Keep your weight loss to 8-10 lbs./month and you'll be laughing!

[J31Bro]

Monthly. But weekly may be cool if someone could do a gif of the transformation or something.



Today I had a great back workout. Got ol' girl to walk on the treadmill. She got in 2.67 miles by the time I finished.


Tomorrow will be shoulders/traps and next day arms.

hit me up on FB & i'll put together a .gif of your transformation back into teh hulkzor. :grin3:

[Captain Ahab]

Bet. Will do weekly pics.

Will be bad ass watching me get ripped in a .gif.

I am sure someone could do some funny shit with it too.


Oh yeah. I normally don't weigh myself but every 2 weeks or so but I hopped on the scale this morning and am about 2lbs down the first week which is what I expected. I still haven't gotten my appetite back yet though so I am struggling to get 2,500 calories.

[_AnGeL_]

in for pics, :mfap:










no homo.

[SiZcO]

in for pics, :mfap:



fag

[95ZJ]

I'm cutting from 230 25%bf, down to 180ish and 10%. If it takes me 9 months, so be it, but god dammit I'm going to get there.

[_AnGeL_]

fag

hey, fuck off buddy.

[Porch Monkey]

make a progress pic like John Stone

[Captain Ahab]

from 203 to 200.5 in the first week. With no cardio and approx 200g protein/day. Haven't came close to getting hungry once.

Shoulder/trap workout went excellent yesterday.

[Captain Ahab]

Yesterday was the first day my legs weren't sore and I worked them out last Thursday. I managed to get 6,000+lbs over my previous leg workout. I love how quick you can get your strength back.

And this is what my shits look like on a healthy cut. I manage one, maybe two of these a day. And my piss is always this yellow due to the ECA stack. Gotta drink a ton of water every day. And yes, thats all the toilet paper I had to use. :grin3:
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab306/deerhunt19882/SS850021.jpg

[pl8er]

Nice work! Man you are making me want to start early, I just haven't hit that 225 mark yet though.

[Porch Monkey]

aren't you worried about liver damage from that stuff? specifically the aspirin? normal amounts can actually damage it :fyi:

[Captain Ahab]

aren't you worried about liver damage from that stuff? specifically the aspirin? normal amounts can actually damage it :fyi:

I don't take a regular aspirin. Just a baby one. Its like 1/3 of a regular one or something like that.

[pl8er]

did you buy your stuff from the link that was posted on here?

[Captain Ahab]

did you buy your stuff from the link that was posted on here?

No. I used that stuff last year though.

I am just using over the counter Bronkaid (each tablet has 25mg ephderine sulfate or about 20mg standarized ephedra).

[Spider Monkey]

What does the Aspirn do?

[Captain Ahab]

I don't know really. You can just do an EC stack and get pretty much the same results. But the original recipe is ECA so I am sticking with it. :shrug:

[Porch Monkey]

thins your blood as the other 2 ingredients constrict your arteries/vessels, it puts yourself @ serious heart risks

[Captain Ahab]

Maybe if your a fatass.

[Spider Monkey]

Maybe if your a fatass.

Uh, bro you are.

[Porch Monkey]

greater chance yes, but it effects everyone

[_AnGeL_]

Uh, bro you are.

:keke:

[junior]

What does the Aspirn do?

The asprin (or white willow bark in herbal form) prolongs the effects of the ephedrine and caffeine. Ephedrine is a bronchial dilator. It opens up the bronchial tubes and lets more oxygen in. It has the same problem that caffeine has though, in that it only lasts for an hour or two. The white willow bark(or asprin) helps to prolong the effects and makes it last for 6 to 8 hours.

[Spider Monkey]

The asprin (or white willow bark in herbal form) prolongs the effects of the ephedrine and caffeine. Ephedrine is a bronchial dilator. It opens up the bronchial tubes and lets more oxygen in. It has the same problem that caffeine has though, in that it only lasts for an hour or two. The white willow bark(or asprin) helps to prolong the effects and makes it last for 6 to 8 hours.

Wouldn't steriods be easier?

[Porch Monkey]

clen

[SiZcO]

if i took steriods and didn't have a gym membership would i become even MORE obese?

[SiZcO]

lol^ this guy crazy yo

[junior]

Wouldn't steriods be easier?

The ECA stack is a weight loss stack. You look at 99% of the fat burning supplements out there, and they are all based on this stack. Steriods like Clen, Winnie, equipoise, are more expensive than the raw ECA stack, and definitely more harmful on the body than the ECA stack. The ECA stack is just like anything else. In moderation it has it's purpose, but it's the fuck nuts that abuse it that give it a bad name.

[pl8er]

they have upgraded to thyro exn...anyone try that?

[atoz350]

they have upgraded to thyro exn...anyone try that?

Their firelean evolution stuff looks a little more basic, but has the same core ingredients. Only at much higher doses.

[pl8er]

thins your blood as the other 2 ingredients constrict your arteries/vessels, it puts yourself @ serious heart risks

Water also puts you at a serious risk for heart attack if you take enough of it in.

if i took steriods and didn't have a gym membership would i become even MORE obese?

Why would you even ask this? Of course you wouldn't. You would get so shredded! We just lift because we like to do it not because its required. Just shoot up and reap the rewards!

Their firelean evolution stuff looks a little more basic, but has the same core ingredients. Only at much higher doses.

interesting. Guess I'll stick with what was already mentioned.

[Captain Ahab]

Their firelean evolution stuff looks a little more basic, but has the same core ingredients. Only at much higher doses.

That stuff has good bit of ephedera per pill. About half the caffeine for an EC stack but i bet it'd get you pumped as hell.

The ECA pills on the first page are the real deal though. I took 2 bottles in 2 months. Had stronger side effects than the plain ole bronkaid and caffeine I'm taking now. Of course I like being able to sleep. lol.

[J31Bro]

Wouldn't steriods be easier?

yeh. dicks already 2.1".

wat?

[SiZcO]

Why would you even ask this? Of course you wouldn't. You would get so shredded! We just lift because we like to do it not because its required. Just shoot up and reap the rewards!





hmmm, had no idea. i thought you had to lift heavy or you just started to build fat.. well sense i know that shiiiiitttt

[pl8er]

hmmm, had no idea. i thought you had to lift heavy or you just started to build fat.. well sense i know that shiiiiitttt

:fyi:

[pl8er]

That stuff has good bit of ephedera per pill. About half the caffeine for an EC stack but i bet it'd get you pumped as hell.

The ECA pills on the first page are the real deal though. I took 2 bottles in 2 months. Had stronger side effects than the plain ole bronkaid and caffeine I'm taking now. Of course I like being able to sleep. lol.

newb question....does it have everything in one pill? Or do I still need to add the aspirin?

[pl8er]

Oh and Sizco, I think my reverse troll attempt failed and you did a reverse to the reverse.

I'll call it a loss on my part, but in the small percentage you are cereal, don't use steroids. Don't even consider them unless your hitting the gym for a solid year, following a tough regiment and not seeing results. Stuff has quick gains and quick losses as well. Just not worth it.

[Porch Monkey]

Lyle Alzado

[Captain Ahab]

newb question....does it have everything in one pill? Or do I still need to add the aspirin?

Yeah it has everything you need.

[atoz350]

newb question....does it have everything in one pill? Or do I still need to add the aspirin?

Are we talking about the first one?

[pl8er]

yeah, the first

[pl8er]

DH answered it though.

[atoz350]

DH answered it though.

Yeah I was looking for the answer too. Good stuff. May try.

[Pop Da Hatch]

:fufu:

[atoz350]

they have upgraded to thyro exn...anyone try that?

So what's the difference with this and their standard EXN formula? I see that the standard contains aspirin.

[maddskillzz]

Monthly. But weekly may be cool if someone could do a gif of the transformation or something.



Today I had a great back workout. Got ol' girl to walk on the treadmill. She got in 2.67 miles by the time I finished.


Tomorrow will be shoulders/traps and next day arms.

this the Ol' Girl you told to slim up or GTFO?

[Captain Ahab]

this the Ol' Girl you told to slim up or GTFO?

Yeah. She worked out with me several times, lost 3lbs in a week and a half and then GTFO. lol.

Told me we could still be friends (which is all we ever were anyway, haha) but she couldn't see me. Me no fuck= me no talk. Her reasoning was she felt she would never be good enough for me. she was right. :hilarious:

[maddskillzz]

Yeah. She worked out with me several times, lost 3lbs in a week and a half and then GTFO. lol.

Told me we could still be friends (which is all we ever were anyway, haha) but she couldn't see me. Me no fuck= me no talk. Her reasoning was she felt she would never be good enough for me. she was right. :hilarious:

that was her way of trying to guilt you into saying "its ok tubby, i like you just the way you are" so her ass wouldnt have to work out...lulz

[power-fanatic07]

that was her way of trying to guilt you into saying "its ok tubby, i like you just the way you are" so her ass wouldnt have to work out...lulz

lulz

[Captain Ahab]

Theres just no fucking away I am going to be seen with an overweight chick when I have a banging 6 pack with hulk pecs, ya know?

[adio]

Theres just no fucking away I am going to be seen with an overweight chick when I have a banging 6 pack with hulk pecs, ya know?

fukin:hilarious:

[J31Bro]

Theres just no fucking away I am going to be seen with an overweight chick when I have a banging 6 pack with hulk pecs, ya know?

Don't play mane.. don't play. We know better.

[maddskillzz]

Don't play mane.. don't play. We know better.

he said he wouldnt BE SEEN....he didnt say he wouldnt smash a fat chick

[Captain Ahab]

he said he wouldnt BE SEEN....he didnt say he wouldnt smash a fat chick

I like the way you think. :grin3:




Had my first cheat meal in about 11 days tonight. Had a buffet with my parents and drank a Mt. Dew. Could only eat 1 plate thankfully. And avoided the fried foods.

[Captain Ahab]

200lbs this morning.
Just 3lbs in 2 weeks. Was hoping for 2lbs a week the first month.

Figured I would have lost more by now. Doing everything I did last time. Think it may be something to do with a few really low carb days and then a carb up day. Good thing is I can already tell a difference in my upper ab area. w00t

[Spider Monkey]

200lbs this morning.
Just 3lbs in 2 weeks. Was hoping for 2lbs a week the first month.

Figured I would have lost more by now. Doing everything I did last time. Think it may be something to do with a few really low carb days and then a carb up day. Good thing is I can already tell a difference in my upper ab area. w00t

Or.... maybe your body learned from the last time you pissed it off and is fighting against you this time?

I mean, not that the human body does that or anything....

[SiZcO]

Oh and Sizco, I think my reverse troll attempt failed and you did a reverse to the reverse.

I'll call it a loss on my part, but in the small percentage you are cereal, don't use steroids. Don't even consider them unless your hitting the gym for a solid year, following a tough regiment and not seeing results. Stuff has quick gains and quick losses as well. Just not worth it.

yeah, i saw what you did there. i'm happy with my results so far just with P90X and additional cardio and diet.

[connersdad19]

scribed....

[adio]

scribed....

holy shit, ur back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:icon14::icon14:

[blue collar customs]

dude you were one ripped midget!! props!

[Captain Ahab]

Well it has been a weird 2 1/2 weeks. Weight hasn't dropped as fast as last year during the first month. But then again, my diet has been better and I haven't did any cardio yet. I know I lost several pounds of muscle last cut. Protein intake is CRITICAL to me this time.

I haven't dropped but about 3 or 4 pounds but I can tell a difference in my stomach flab already. Upper abs shed some fat also.
I believe I can be slightly more cut than I was last year at a higher weight.
w00t!

Bout to start adding in cardio this week. had to let the Ephedera effects wear off first.

[atoz350]

Well it has been a weird 2 1/2 weeks. Weight hasn't dropped as fast as last year during the first month. But then again, my diet has been better and I haven't did any cardio yet. I know I lost several pounds of muscle last cut. Protein intake is CRITICAL to me this time.

I haven't dropped but about 3 or 4 pounds but I can tell a difference in my stomach flab already. Upper abs shed some fat also.
I believe I can be slightly more cut than I was last year at a higher weight.
w00t!

Bout to start adding in cardio this week. had to let the Ephedera effects wear off first.

Dude, just placed a big order at bodytech.com following this thread. Gonna start as soon as it gets here. Thanks for the inspiration!!

[Captain Ahab]

Okay, its been 28 days.

I realized I made a mistake when I weighed myself the morning I started this cut. I had drank heavily the night before and did not take into account dehydration. No doubt I really weighed a pound or two more than what I initially posted. I am going to mark my beginning weight as 205ish.


This AM I weighed in at 199. So about a loss of 5-6lbs with no cardio except hunting. I only drank 1 time over the past 4 weeks and got SHITFACED that night. Had 3 cheat meals. 1 seafood buffet, 1 country buffet, and 1 fastfood meal that wasn't healthy. I have noticed the most fat loss in my upper ab area. Upper ups are becoming slightly visible already but its hard to tell b/c of the camera flash.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/deerhunt1988/SS850035.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/deerhunt1988/SS850036.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/deerhunt1988/SS850037-1.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/deerhunt1988/SS850038-2.jpg

You may not can tell much difference this first month, but in the next month is when the losses will really start showing. Since I have gotten back into the swing of things I am going to start adding in cardio 3-5 times a week depending on my schedule. Also am going to start doing my superset cutting routine next week.

Cardio sessions will consist of 45 minute 4mph walks first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, 30 minute 4mph walks after workouts, or 20 minute HIIT (1 minute walk, 1 minute spring, 1 minute walk, sprint, etc) first thing in morning or after workout.



One thing that has me bewildered is my legs. I didn't even work them out one time from mid-November til January 7th. yesterday I set a PR of 315lbsx12reps while on a caloric deficit for a month? Our bodys are amazing, what else can you say?

I have read studies where a week or two of rest can actually do you good. Hell, my legs had a month and a half of rest and I end up setting a PR just 5 leg workouts later? Crazy.


I did have some knee pain during my last bulk from squats. It is absent now. So i reckon that healed up over my break. HOWEVER, I think I jumped back into my workout too heavy. My right shoulder has bothered me on bench presses, shoulder presses, etc. I have went 4 days without doing any shoulder work so I am hoping today when I bench it will have ceased some. About to find out.

[Captain Ahab]

After looking back at the before pics some of you should be able to notice a difference after all. lost some of the upper love handles and upper knee at. Also lost some lower boob fat.

[pl8er]

Dude, you serious? You can TOTALLY tell that you have changed. You have lost some fat and your ramps look to be slightly more defined.

Keep up the good work!

[Captain Ahab]

Main thing I realized is that either the ECA pills (the ones pl8er is using now) I took at the beginning of my cut last time were more potent than the Bronkaid +Caffeine I am taking now, or the stack just affects you less than the first time.

[Alpine4life89]

So you can really see the results of cutting after about a month?

[Captain Ahab]

Depends on how lean you are. I started telling a difference this go round in about 2 1/2 weeks.

[synyster1337]

What can I look up to read about this form of weight loss/strength training? I would like to get ripped, but I have more of a weight loss/accenting focus in mind, not uber fucking hulk strength.

[Alpine4life89]

I'm probably around 12% body fat, maybe less. How many grams of fat do you eat a day? And do you still need a lot of protein?

That's all i need to know.

[Captain Ahab]

I'm probably around 12% body fat, maybe less. How many grams of fat do you eat a day? And do you still need a lot of protein?

That's all i need to know.

I have no clue on how many grams of fat. Doesn't really matter.

Equation is rather simple. Calories consumed and burned < basal metabolic weight= weight loss.

Keeping protein intake high (at least 1g per lb bodyweight) is muscle insurance while you cut.

And how much of a difference you see also depends on your body composition. If your trying to cut to 8% without much muscle base the results aren't going to look as impressive.

A perfect example would be me. I have a pretty good muscle base under that fat. My goal is to maintain as much of that muscle as possible while shedding the fat off. I make it a goal to consume 220g/protein a day...