New car buying process: Initiated

[pl8er]

So I'm thinking of selling my Stratus and getting a new (newer) car. I want to spend between 15 and 17 has to be a 2007 or better with less than 30k miles.

I'm looking at a Lancer GTS right now. I'm open to ideas though. I will be buying in June/July (I like to do some serious research beforehand (I'm a buyer, it just works this way LOL)

[slim8605]

:cough: Lancer :cough:

[slim8605]

What are the intentions of this purchase? Gas saver, sporty, roomy/family?

[willyg4444]

so you're looking for a sporty compact? For 17k and less than 30k miles you could find a 2007 subaru WRX for that price range. Or a newer subaru impreza non-wrx.

[97gp]

Something like this

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=c&car_id=256284896&dealer_id=76936&car_year=2008&rdm=1238277798273&model=G8&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=PONT&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=44039&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=30&standard=false

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=258003078&dealer_id=69351&car_year=2008&rdm=1238277798273&model=G8&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=PONT&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=44039&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=47&standard=false

[pl8er]

What are the intentions of this purchase? Gas saver, sporty, roomy/family?

Thanks, sorry for not putting this.

This will be a long term car (I usually buy and keep for at least 4-5 years) I want a bit of power, but honestly nothing compares to my bikes so I don't need a sports car. I would like 25mpg highway or better 4 door. My son will occasionally be in this car.

[pl8er]

Something like this

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=c&car_id=256284896&dealer_id=76936&car_year=2008&rdm=1238277798273&model=G8&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=PONT&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=44039&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=30&standard=false

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=258003078&dealer_id=69351&car_year=2008&rdm=1238277798273&model=G8&num_records=25&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=50&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=n&make=PONT&keywords_display=&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=44039&advanced=&end_year=2010&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=47&standard=false


Thanks for the links! I was actually just at the Columbus auto show and although I know the G8 has TONS of power the trim and interior felt and looked very cheap. Everything rattled around.

[pl8er]

so you're looking for a sporty compact? For 17k and less than 30k miles you could find a 2007 subaru WRX for that price range. Or a newer subaru impreza non-wrx.

Shit, should have multi-quoted. I'll look into this. I've thought about WRX's. How are they for reliability and such? I know they have a decent amount of power.

Have you owned one?

Edit: Seems like for the price, I'm better off getting a brand new Lancer. Not as much power, but about the same features for much less money.

[Slammed]

nissan altima

honda accord

wrx

[97gp]

07-08 Grand prix then

[willyg4444]

Shit, should have multi-quoted. I'll look into this. I've thought about WRX's. How are they for reliability and such? I know they have a decent amount of power.

Have you owned one?

Edit: Seems like for the price, I'm better off getting a brand new Lancer. Not as much power, but about the same features for much less money.

Lancer doesn't have AWD ;) If you're set on a new car I guess the Lancer would suit you quite nicely. Subarus are very reliable, they last for a long long time. I've never been a fan of Mitsubishi, but the new Lancer's are kinda catchy.

[mackin]

GLI would be fun

mazda 6 might be worth a look

what are lightly used maximas going for these days?

Altima SE-R would be sick if you found an 05 with low miles.

[pl8er]

GLI would be fun

mazda 6 might be worth a look

what are lightly used maximas going for these days?

Altima SE-R would be sick if you found an 05 with low miles.

I'll check all of those out.

I'm going to go google this, but what is a GLI? VW?

[slim8605]

I'll check all of those out.

I'm going to go google this, but what is a GLI? VW?

Don't bother.

Yes its a Vdub. You can cross that out. I doubt you'll be able to find one in your price range.

Same for the Maxima. I've seen the 07+ Maxima go for under 17k but not with the low mileage you want. But I'm sure you may be able to talk a dealer down on the price.

I may be wrong but I think they stopped the SE-R in 06 so thats out too. The 07+ altimas have more power than the SE-R anyway so you would probably be better off with just getting one of those.

[IDSkot]

:cough: Lancer :cough:

Your Lancer is gay :fyi:



Oh, wait. I'm sorry. WAS gay.



Also, my friend has an Altima (brand new) and it drives really nice and is pretty roomy. If you want a 4 door, get the Maxima. Same thing, just 4 doors. Her sister has a Mazda 6, and that, too, is a good choice. Also check up on VW's. Jettas or Passats.

[_AnGeL_]

Your Lancer is gay :fyi:



Oh, wait. I'm sorry. WAS gay.



Also, my friend has an Altima (brand new) and it drives really nice and is pretty roomy. If you want a 4 door, get the Maxima. Same thing, just 4 doors. Her sister has a Mazda 6, and that, too, is a good choice. Also check up on VW's. Jettas or Passats.

or he can look for a 4 door altima........ i like the look of the altima better than the maxima..... but the older model altima > new altima

[slim8605]

Your Lancer is gay :fyi:



Oh, wait. I'm sorry. WAS gay.



Also, my friend has an Altima (brand new) and it drives really nice and is pretty roomy. If you want a 4 door, get the Maxima. Same thing, just 4 doors. Her sister has a Mazda 6, and that, too, is a good choice. Also check up on VW's. Jettas or Passats.

Your boyfriend is gay :fyi:

My friends sister has the Altima coupe. Very nice car.

Edit: and I have the Lancer back...for now at least :crap:

[IDSkot]

or he can look for a 4 door altima........ i like the look of the altima better than the maxima..... but the older model altima > new altima

I actually thought that the Maxima == 4 Door Altima. But, I guess I had my info wrong. The Altima Coupe is the shit, though. It has a pretty nice bass response off the stock system. But, at a certain point it starts to distort the highs. Full-range drivers == FTL.

Your boyfriend is gay :fyi:

My friends sister has the Altima coupe. Very nice car.

... your insults are so clever.
Ohwait, they aren't. =|

[slim8605]

I actually thought that the Maxima == 4 Door Altima. But, I guess I had my info wrong. The Altima Coupe is the shit, though. It has a pretty nice bass response off the stock system. But, at a certain point it starts to distort the highs. Full-range drivers == FTL.



... your insults are so clever.
Ohwait, they aren't. =|

That was an excellent insult. Can you teach me how to do it?

[IDSkot]

That was an excellent insult. Can you teach me how to do it?

Grab a spoon, insert in any orifice. Twirl a few times. Take out. Repeat in any orifice of your choosing (other than mouth.)

[slim8605]

Grab a spoon, insert in any orifice. Twirl a few times. Take out. Repeat in any orifice of your choosing (other than mouth.)

Can I use one of those little icecream testor spoons?

[IDSkot]

Can I use one of those little icecream testor spoons?

No! A big ice cream scooper spoon.

[slim8605]

No! A big ice cream scooper spoon.

Only if you share a nice big ice cream cone with me afterwards.

[mackin]

Don't bother.

Yes its a Vdub. You can cross that out. I doubt you'll be able to find one in your price range.

Same for the Maxima. I've seen the 07+ Maxima go for under 17k but not with the low mileage you want. But I'm sure you may be able to talk a dealer down on the price.

I may be wrong but I think they stopped the SE-R in 06 so thats out too. The 07+ altimas have more power than the SE-R anyway so you would probably be better off with just getting one of those.

you are an idiot. GLI is the sportier trim level on a jetta. you can find one in your price range, or just look for a 2.0T jetta. (4 cylinder turbo)

get an 05 or 06 maxima easily in your price range with hella options. my dad has a 2005 maxima SE with the 350Z wheels and it is quick and comfortable. he loves it.

SE-R did stop, however it is way more sporty than current altimas with way more style, and is one year really a deal breaker?

all of the cars i listed are at least worth checking out. it would be smart to see all options.

[slim8605]

you are an idiot. GLI is the sportier trim level on a jetta. you can find one in your price range, or just look for a 2.0T jetta. (4 cylinder turbo)

get an 05 or 06 maxima easily in your price range with hella options. my dad has a 2005 maxima SE with the 350Z wheels and it is quick and comfortable. he loves it.

SE-R did stop, however it is way more sporty than current altimas with way more style, and is one year really a deal breaker?

all of the cars i listed are at least worth checking out. it would be smart to see all options.

I'm sorry I thought the GLI was a new car from VW.

I was going off of what he said he wanted so why recommend an 05 or 06?

He asked for specific things. I don't see why people always try to throw in something else?

[pl8er]

So I'm thinking of selling my Stratus and getting a new (newer) car. I want to spend between 15 and 17 has to be a 2007 or better with less than 30k miles.

I'm looking at a Lancer GTS right now. I'm open to ideas though. I will be buying in June/July (I like to do some serious research beforehand (I'm a buyer, it just works this way LOL)

Well here we go LOL....always interesting to see my initial thought and timeframes and where I end up.

Car I'm going to look at today, 2009 Lancer GTS, 0 miles total spend...wait for it...wait for it....17,500 ;) oh yeah, 0.0% APR at that.

So, i'm planning to go new and I get invoice pricing due to being a member of a certain group through work (if you are around mid-ohio and need a car, check with me first and I can get you invoice pricing at most places on new cars)

Question is, what do I need to be negotiating on? At this point, i'm sorta at a loss. I've never bought a new car as it doesn't really prove to be a financially smart decision. This time it does. Do I need to negotiate anything? I mean, car is going to be invoice priced already and I get the loan with no APR. Has to be something for me to press for? Maintenance maybe, but of course it hast he warranty. Anyone have tricks for free oil changes etc?

[bluecar]

Question is, what do I need to be negotiating on? At this point, i'm sorta at a loss. I've never bought a new car as it doesn't really prove to be a financially smart decision. This time it does. Do I need to negotiate anything? I mean, car is going to be invoice priced already and I get the loan with no APR. Has to be something for me to press for? Maintenance maybe, but of course it hast he warranty. Anyone have tricks for free oil changes etc?

Maybe there is an option you want, like tinted windows. I doubt they are going to give you much after all those other discounts.

[pl8er]

Maybe there is an option you want, like tinted windows. I doubt they are going to give you much after all those other discounts.

Hrm...yeah, i'll look at that. I'm getting the GTS as it has navi, better engine, CVT etc already standard.

[pl8er]

But good looking out!

[bigtoyota479]

I hate buying cars. I had exactly what I wanted in mind when I bought my Honda, and it was exactly what I wanted. However, I'm not sure that my demands were strict enough for the dealership. Under 200 bucks a month, under 80K miles, 35+ MPG, 5 speed, and it had to be a Honda or a Toyota. I walked into the dealership with those requirements, and I walked out with a new car. So, either my demands were too light, or the dealership really worked to get me what I wanted. Either way, I'm happy.

Personally, I think you are getting a helluva deal, and there's probably not much more you could get out of them. Tinted windows would be a big plus. Free oil changes are somewhat hard to get if they are not offering it already, but maybe ask for a years worth. That would equate to 3-5 changes, depending on your useage of the new car. I would at least ask, the worst they could say is no. Never hurts to try.

[pl8er]

I hate buying cars. I had exactly what I wanted in mind when I bought my Honda, and it was exactly what I wanted. However, I'm not sure that my demands were strict enough for the dealership. Under 200 bucks a month, under 80K miles, 35+ MPG, 5 speed, and it had to be a Honda or a Toyota. I walked into the dealership with those requirements, and I walked out with a new car. So, either my demands were too light, or the dealership really worked to get me what I wanted. Either way, I'm happy.

Personally, I think you are getting a helluva deal, and there's probably not much more you could get out of them. Tinted windows would be a big plus. Free oil changes are somewhat hard to get if they are not offering it already, but maybe ask for a years worth. That would equate to 3-5 changes, depending on your useage of the new car. I would at least ask, the worst they could say is no. Never hurts to try.


Think about a career as a buyer. That is basically our motto. Ask for the world, you either a. get all or some of it or get nothing at all.

Changing clothes and off to the dealership.

[Spider Monkey]

Extras. Get them all.

[pl8er]

that is the plan...i'll be back later tonight.

[tapout]

No DOC fees. or any of that other BS that they tack on when youre signing the paperwork. Be prepared to walk and you will win.

[pl8er]

Well transaction is done. 2009 Lancer GTS CVT but no navi (seemed like one or the other) did get the upgraded stereo system with it. They were asking 22 ish (bit over) I got tad over what I expected on the trade-in, then with 0.0 apr and the invoiced price. Ended up 5 bucks a month more than the 2008 would have cost, but I have a full warranty (08 had 3,600 or 3,800 I believe miles).

I'll get some pics up soon. Gotta tint the windows.

[bluecar]

Well transaction is done. 2009 Lancer GTS CVT but no navi (seemed like one or the other) did get the upgraded stereo system with it. They were asking 22 ish (bit over) I got tad over what I expected on the trade-in, then with 0.0 apr and the invoiced price. Ended up 5 bucks a month more than the 2008 would have cost, but I have a full warranty (08 had 3,600 or 3,800 I believe miles).

I'll get some pics up soon. Gotta tint the windows.

I thought you were getting Navi? Why do you care about upgraded audios when you may change it out anyway.

[pl8er]

I thought you were getting Navi? Why do you care about upgraded audios when you may change it out anyway.

Yeah, I wanted Navi, but it was either CVT or Navi (the ones with Navi there had manual). Wife made a solid point on it. The truck has navigation and anytime we travel where I would need navi, it would be in the truck. Wasn't worth waiting for one.

True on the audio, I will be ripping some of it out (sub sucks balls LOL) but I don't mind the stereo as its bluetooth and volume sirius etc all in the steering wheel.

[pl8er]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l156/sweets4ever48/Misc/IMG_4377.jpg

[Toasted1]

nice ride

[pl8er]

Thanks. First brand new car. I've always been totally anti that but the deals were just too good to pass up.

[bluecar]

Thanks. First brand new car. I've always been totally anti that but the deals were just too good to pass up.

I felt the same way when I bought my truck.

[pl8er]

I felt the same way when I bought my truck.

I'm reading about mods now. First impressions of this car are good. But if I had to pick a con, the takeoff BLOWS without using the paddles. I want a bit more takeoff.

[Spider Monkey]

Hot

[_AnGeL_]

nice car, congrats.

[mackin]

slam it!

[brynm]

Nice car, nice colour. We've got an 08 Outlander in the same grey.

[pl8er]

So went back to the dealership last night. My buddy really liked my car so he wanted me to work the salesmen for a deal.

Ended up getting a white Lancer Ralliart 09 tad under invoice with navi. That thing is pretty impressive power wise. I'll get pics soon.

[slim8605]

:woot::woot::woot:

Nice! Take off is ass but other than that its a pretty fun car. Enjoy it!

Evolutionm.net

[pl8er]

:woot::woot::woot:

Nice! Take off is ass but other than that its a pretty fun car. Enjoy it!

Evolutionm.net

Yeah, on mine (gts) takeoff is ASS....mega blow ass, but on his, actually the takeoff is a touch better than expected ..

[IamDeMan]

You should get a fast car and wrap it around a tree.

[slim8605]

Yeah, on mine (gts) takeoff is ASS....mega blow ass, but on his, actually the takeoff is a touch better than expected ..

You mind if I ask how much he paid for the Ralliart? I've seen two near me for a little over 21k and a few still new Evo GSRs between 25k-27k.

[pl8er]

You mind if I ask how much he paid for the Ralliart? I've seen two near me for a little over 21k and a few still new Evo GSRs between 25k-27k.

Brand new??

His had the Navi (30gb storage mediacenter etc) 2009 8 miles. Invoice was 25,500 and we got it for 25,000. After the add-ons it was 27,882.

[slim8605]

Brand new??

His had the Navi (30gb storage mediacenter etc) 2009 8 miles. Invoice was 25,500 and we got it for 25,000. After the add-ons it was 27,882.

Yep, brand new. They've been having a hard time selling evos around here. A lot of the dearlerships still have brand new 08s sitting on there lots. And one of the biggest Mitsu dealerships in the area closed so they sent the inventory to their other dealers so they are really pushing them. It sounds like he still got a pretty average deal on that RA. The ones going for cheap here wouldn't have any of the goodies he has.

[pl8er]

Yep, brand new. They've been having a hard time selling evos around here. A lot of the dearlerships still have brand new 08s sitting on there lots. And one of the biggest Mitsu dealerships in the area closed so they sent the inventory to their other dealers so they are really pushing them. It sounds like he still got a pretty average deal on that RA. The ones going for cheap here wouldn't have any of the goodies he has.


Can you link me please? I can counter some stuff using that....won't get money back but will get lots of free shit for it.

My situation is always different because distance doesn't matter.I say I can get X from Dallas for whatever price and they usually say "well transportation is costly" then I just counter with "He is the regional logistics manager for Schenkers" and they shut the fuck up :P ha ha ha.

[pl8er]

Yep, brand new. They've been having a hard time selling evos around here. A lot of the dearlerships still have brand new 08s sitting on there lots. And one of the biggest Mitsu dealerships in the area closed so they sent the inventory to their other dealers so they are really pushing them. It sounds like he still got a pretty average deal on that RA. The ones going for cheap here wouldn't have any of the goodies he has.

Can you give me the link or the name of the dealership?